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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: How Kammie is Scamming Her Pro-Choice Supporters Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:58:07 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <vfbkgf$28hcd$3@dont-email.me> References: <vf0rlt$3vje6$3@dont-email.me> <vf6kcr$147f6$2@dont-email.me> <vf931c$1kvi1$4@dont-email.me> <vf93s0$1l60r$1@dont-email.me> <vfbji1$289eq$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:58:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d288117a06d47c31919c82c2c7695280"; logging-data="2377101"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+kz0o77lWGpvW+0REEWBoa" User-Agent: Usenapp/0.92.2/l for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:KQ84DCKUGuh0Fp65ZSWKuFcZQXk= Bytes: 2158 On Oct 23, 2024 at 12:41:53 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: > BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: > >>> . . . > >> And yet we can pass laws against murdering adult humans without it being a >> religious act. Why can't the same be done for humans in the womb? > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > That right there is the reason. > > As a legal concept, human life begins at birth, never in the womb. You > just made the religious argument that human life begins in the womb, > which is the start of pregnancy. Other religious types argue that life > begins at conception. Ridiculous. "Murder" is whatever the legislature says it is. It needn't even be a human life. If your state legislature amended the penal code to say that in addition to humans, murder now includes the unlawful killing of any member of the species Canis familiaris, then it would be a valid law and killing a dog would be murder. So expanding the definition of "murder" to include pre-born infants in no way automatically makes the law a religious one.