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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: How Monkeys see the World (Re: What is it like to be a Bat?) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:46:31 +0200 Message-ID: <vfbnb7$rab4$3@solani.org> References: <v3ndqb$1782o$1@solani.org> <vfbmre$r9vv$3@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:46:31 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="895332"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:K44Ha5kWLh+lFU2e3W7w59WUGSo= In-Reply-To: <vfbmre$r9vv$3@solani.org> X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXVGiBc6iO/09YAuPmDSfoGMwh2RiRR2FzKuIz3M365uYyj1dseeCobfGV0lLT0poc/EBIFXo= Bytes: 3402 Lines: 77 Hi, One could now assume that this dualism prevents artificial intelligence. Because seeing “pink” leads to feeling “pink”. In this respect, this is also a very interesting book, perhaps of historical interest? How Monkeys See the World ”A fascinating intellectual odyssey and a superb summary of where science stands.” https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/H/bo3774491.html My guess ChatGPT proves that dualism does not prevent artificial intelligence. And how does ChatGPT manage it? I suspect the Knowlegde Acquisition Bottleneck has been cracked. Even though ChatGPT doesn't have a "Pink" feeling, it still has the semantic network of "Pink" and can have a say. It was already heard through the grapevine in 2018 that something was being done, but back then it was a rather skeptical vote: Did We Just Replace the ‘Knowledge Bottleneck’ With a ‘Data Bottleneck’? https://cacm.acm.org/blogcacm/did-we-just-replace-the-knowledge-bottleneck-with-a-data-bottleneck/ The "Too good to be true, in fact." turned into a "Heureka, it works!" right before our eyes. The date of birth was: Generative Pre-trained Transformer 3 (GPT-3) OpenAI - 28. Mai 2020, Wired reported that GPT-3 "sends shivers down spines in Silicon Valley." https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_Pre-trained_Transformer_3#Rezeption Have Fun! Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > So this study colleague with his Flavia, the female > mathematician, has given me something to think about. > Why don't I react exactly the same as him? > > Maybe he's a different strain of homosapiens? > And therefore rules differently than me, at least > I never had a fetish for female mathematicians, > > a contradiction to determinism? > Ha ha, now I can feed you something again: > > What is it Like to be a Bat? > the hard problem of consciousness > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaZbCctlll4 > > Bye > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Just reading: >> >> "Deep ecologists reject any mechanical >> or computer model of nature, and see >> the Earth as a living organism, which >> should be treated and understood accordingly" >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources >> >> Now that we enter the age of AI. What >> about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth >> Computer model? Any pointers? >> >