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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of Democracy Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:05:26 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 13 Message-ID: <vfboem$28v56$6@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <38fb5a91-5d00-be42-4bfe-2a05232a82c1@example.net> <ln7tooFijhpU2@mid.individual.net> <vemfq7$1qobu$5@dont-email.me> <venqec$24hhj$2@dont-email.me> <sFRPO.380393$FzW1.50024@fx14.iad> <mm96uk-us2.ln1@anthive.com> <v2%PO.149812$WtV9.44658@fx10.iad> <lnbfekF45jfU7@mid.individual.net> <GV8QO.86653$lm45.13011@fx05.iad> <ver62q$2oior$7@dont-email.me> <TR9QO.410409$WOde.107153@fx09.iad> <e73543b1-b850-963a-54c5-4535f303fae2@example.net> <644516764.751141153.105442.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <652c95b8-cdfb-50ba-9632-e7cbeec5bf43@example.net> <vf5c7v$th0d$3@dont-email.me> <vf6fi6$13ctc$7@dont-email.me> <HGCRO.47719$rIH3.28956@fx40.iad> <c207aeff-272f-1dfd-95cc-bb22de13e4d2@example.net> <vf7p8c$1dpfh$1@dont-email.me> <8e3c519b-770e-e8e9-0d46-155863cf9e05@example.net> <VrURO.424001$FzW1.480@fx14.iad> <vf98ua$1lsqn$6@dont-email.me> <LpXRO.57806$vtH3.20984@fx07.iad> <vfajf5$1vqc5$7@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:05:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="270654f4a32da50415a28540f0889946"; logging-data="2391206"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/1jPm23vS23c4LbdiQifTJ" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IcBGMTN7/5eirrSa9x648hsxAPM= Bytes: 2494 On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:34:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > The problem is that we can in theory produce marvellous low entropy > products like computers, but only at the expense of increasing entropy > elsewhere. There is an absolutely massive source of energy literally pouring down on us, that we can use for this entropy reduction. It’s so massive, it’s inconceivable (at this stage in our civilization) that we could ever exhaust it. It supplies this energy at the rate of about a kilowatt of power per square metre of Earth’s daylit surface. It’s called our Sun.