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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:11:39 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: <vfcdtc$2fm0c$1@dont-email.me> References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org> <verkkk$2r6kk$1@dont-email.me> <22f95ff7-c361-4d8a-943c-1df76abb98cc@att.net> <vevpsl$3pi3s$2@dont-email.me> <ed1862ff-3679-4175-bb25-c317be9713b2@att.net> <vf0t7i$3v3cv$5@dont-email.me> <9c55eda1-bb24-44ae-9158-2a3b354170cd@att.net> <vf2ck9$amc3$1@dont-email.me> <30b58bd38b2264ae8ca180a544cc88ee34c6d8fa@i2pn2.org> <vf33u8$eisc$1@dont-email.me> <c4edfd4625822f1af9a40daf028fbbd5aab4a225@i2pn2.org> <vf3mts$i1ai$1@dont-email.me> <45df31bad2d3e517cb48ab1f0eb7ff6f80999bf3@i2pn2.org> <vf526v$s8qs$2@dont-email.me> <vf56f2$svda$1@dont-email.me> <vf58pv$t8hc$2@dont-email.me> <5e5ccee7-0c98-4701-aeaa-4950a3ce2938@att.net> <vf66bb$125ku$1@dont-email.me> <08a00c75-bf8d-4f9c-816a-83b8517ca04e@att.net> <vf7mqj$1d3m4$2@dont-email.me> <062a0fa5-9a15-4649-8095-22c877af5ebf@att.net> <vf8itt$1hosd$2@dont-email.me> <ac3154e57f7f839171a3b3618317bd9b71cafa19@i2pn2.org> <vfb27v$22ghv$3@dont-email.me> <16963a35d0822a0716410a7759ebab1fa44e76a6@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:11:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f255236784b0884105f55aca8336b1f6"; logging-data="2611212"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18FZh7EVclzeq12QzmrUGKEn7EMWVmQah0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:2NMMWshoLb1Spnm2Ms8PUI7z19k= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <16963a35d0822a0716410a7759ebab1fa44e76a6@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 4000 On 10/23/2024 8:04 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/23/24 10:46 AM, WM wrote: >> On 23.10.2024 13:37, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 10/22/24 12:12 PM, WM wrote: >>>> On 22.10.2024 18:03, Jim Burns wrote: >> >>>>> ∀n ∈ ℕ: 2×n ∈ ℕ >>>> >>>> Not if all elements are existing before multiplication already. >>> >>> IF not, then your actual infinity wasn't actually infinite >> >> It is infinite like the fractions between 0 and 1. When doubling we >> get even-numerator fractions, some of which greater the 1. > > But from 0 to 1 isn't an infinite distance, thus doubling can put you > out of that bound, and we can find a specific definaable number where > that happens. It has a finite value for the upper limit. The fun part is that we can pack infinite unit fractions between any two points wrt normalizing the gaps. > > At 1/2, we double to hit the boundry. > > But, with the Natual Numbers, there isn't a value that is 1/2 of the > "highest value" since there isn't a highest number that is a Natural > Number, since every Natural Number has a successor that is higher. > >> >>> Your "actual infinity" seems to be just an unimaginably large value, >>> not infinite, as your actual infinity has an end, it has an element >>> without a successor, so it isn't the set it claims to be. >> >> The completed infinite cannot avoid to be complete. But it is infinite >> because the end cannot be determined because of the dark domain. > > No, the end cannot be determined, because it isn't there. > > There is nothing about being complete that means it needs to have an > "end", that is just your broken finite thinking that has blown your > logic to smithereens. > > Your "darkness" is just a method you use to hide your errors, but it > can't actually be defined in a way to be used. > > Sorry, you are just proving how stupid you are. > >> >> Regards, WM >> >