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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: How Kammie is Scamming Her Pro-Choice Supporters
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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>Oct 23, 2024 at 12:41:53 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>. . . 

>>>And yet we can pass laws against murdering adult humans without it being a
>>>religious act. Why can't the same be done for humans in the womb?
>>                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>That right there is the reason.

>>As a legal concept, human life begins at birth, never in the womb. You
>>just made the religious argument that human life begins in the womb,
>>which is the start of pregnancy. Other religious types argue that life
>>begins at conception.

>Ridiculous. "Murder" is whatever the legislature says it is. It needn't even
>be a human life.

Earlier in the thread, you told us that was the legal definition of
murder, the unlawful killing of a human being, so not foeticide.

>If your state legislature amended the penal code to say that in addition
>to humans, murder now includes the unlawful killing of any member of
>the species Canis familiaris, then it would be a valid law and killing
>a dog would be murder.

>So expanding the definition of "murder" to include pre-born infants in no way
>automatically makes the law a religious one.

Or, I dunno, they might make the crime the unlawful killing of a foetus,
entirely skipping the appeal about the unconstitutional redefinition of
when human life begins and have a more serious statute.