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From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 08:19:49 -0700
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On 10/23/2024 7:31 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> On 10/23/2024 11:13 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> On 10/23/2024 5:30 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>> Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> <about LA smog>
>>>> Having lived there, I can confirm that it is far better than
>>>> the 70s and 80s.   I recall playing softball one saturday
>>>> in 1985 and having to stop between home and first to catch
>>>> my breath.
>>>
>>> And this is in great part due to government regulation of auto 
>>> manufacturers,
>>> first in California but then across the US.  Car manufacturers fought 
>>> the
>>> emission control requirements tooth and nail, and most of the early 
>>> attempts
>>> they made to meet them were incredibly poor and reduced both 
>>> performance and
>>> reliability.  Eventually they were driven toward closed-loop fuel 
>>> injection
>>> control and then the world changed for the better in so many 
>>> different ways.
>>>
>>> Eventually the emission control requirements wound up resulting in a 
>>> better
>>> technology with higher performance and better reliability as well as 
>>> a lot
>>> less smog.
>>>
>>>> On the other hand, it's worse now that it was a decade
>>>> ago, simply due to population growth over the last
>>>> couple decades (and wildfires).
>>>
>>> Electric vehicles still pollute, it's just that the pollution is done 
>>> at the
>>> power plant many miles away where it isn't visible.  BUT, electric 
>>> vehicles
>>> only use pollution-causing power when they are running, not when they 
>>> are
>>> immobilized in traffic on the 101.  Cars in LA seem to spend as much 
>>> time
>>> stopped as moving, and so electric power is likely to be a win.
>>> --scott
>>>
>> But those same batteries have to power the AC which in LA means a lot 
>> of "out of juice" EVs on the highway to add to the "stop" part of 
>> "stop and go traffic"!  :P
> 
> How many have you actually seen? The batteries in pure EVs are so large
> compared to ICE cars, and the consumption running the heat pump so low
> in comparison to that of moving the car, that the AC and heat can run
> for a long, long time.
> 
> I once tested my car in single digit temperatures, and determined that
> the interior could be kept at 60F+ for well over a day.
> 
> A few hours in stop-and-go with the AC on is easily obtained.
> 
> OTOH, I do frequently hear of ICE cars draining their small batteries
> running the AC in the same conditions.
> 
I think you missed the ":p" tongue-in-cheek emoji at the end of my post.  ;)

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