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Subject: Re: The Joy Of Democracy
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 10:10:05 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2024-10-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:55:53 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:11:10 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> They simply know that the mob will vote for the people who promise to
>>> give them free stuff ...
>> 
>> You mean the rural mob, from those former slave-owning states. The ones
>> who get outsize representation in the Electoral College.
>
> Do you have any idea of how many rural states either didn't exist prior to 
> the Civil War or never allowed slavery? What is that 'outsized 
> representation' canard?  Do you know how the Electoral College is formed?
>
> Quick lesson: every state has two Senators, no more, no less. That's a 
> total of 100 votes out of 538. Where do the other 438 votes come from. 
> Washington DC gets 3 votes despite not being a state. That's the 
> equivalent of 2 Senators and 1 Representative. All state have at least one 
> Representative. Until the last election cycle this state only had one.
>
> How are the representative apportioned?
>
> https://www.census.gov/topics/public-sector/congressional-apportionment/
> about.html
>
> "The apportionment calculation is based upon the total resident population 
> (citizens and noncitizens) of the 50 states."
>
> Now isn't that interesting? Fill your state with noncitizens and you may 
> get more Representatives, hence more votes in the EC. 
>
> So it comes out to the more populous states getting more votes. Montana is 
> a rural state that did not achieve statehood until 1889 and never had 
> slavery. It gets a massive 4 votes out of the 538. Yeah, that's really 
> outsized representation. I guess it's better than the 3 we used to get.

Much better stated than my post. It's always amusing when those from other 
countries think they've got it all figured out in our country. 

I believe Alaska, Delaware, Wyoming, Vermont, North Dakota and South Dakota 
all still have one Representative in House. So all are still on an even 
footing with Washington, DC, where the citizens weren't originally allowed 
to vote, since they were supposed to be neutral in the elections. (That was 
the whole point of why the District of Columbia was to be neutral ground.) 
They got Electoral voters in 1961 — it took the 23rd Amendment to the 
Constitution to get it done.

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien