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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: squeezing a field Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 23:42:52 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <vfg3oo$367em$2@dont-email.me> References: <kibihjlu14m022op6g2lr5hmkso5231p8n@4ax.com> <vfbef1$254rl$1@dont-email.me> <u4gihjdgcgi1nc60s64g7pts22fm2h303m@4ax.com> <vfd68j$2j2d5$2@dont-email.me> <vfdtj0$2mt45$1@dont-email.me> <jg1lhjd9r39i6ppcr050f7u52cek1ftosp@4ax.com> <1r1ycdl.17sbr9wqmmq68N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <kcllhjl846glvjuri8mjq7ia83m357aqep@4ax.com> <1r1z7q8.1yc5exy15yk7fsN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 14:43:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="89a57dbd1e18c41d55b09ec784083237"; logging-data="3349974"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/qcWIzQ4thMnxgGvyGg/OpFpoCJK6Vjjk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:gXAZG2iAG52lnalOAtEmP0MaJCE= In-Reply-To: <1r1z7q8.1yc5exy15yk7fsN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241025-2, 25/10/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 3117 On 25/10/2024 7:37 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 21:56:59 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid >> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote: >> >>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 18:45:20 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> >>>> wrote: >>> [...] >>>>> plugging numbers pulled out of thin air into LTSpice is better that >>>>> doing the actual measurement? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> It is for people who don't actually work with real parts. >>> >>> >>> Peter Baxandall (of tone control and QUAD amplifier fame) claimed to use >>> analogue computing to work out his designs i.e. He built prototypes and >>> measured them. >> >> You youngsters probably don't remember a time when there wasn't Spice. > > Hey!!! Who are you calling a youngster?!!! :-) > >> I did some simulation in Basic-Plus, and it was a nuisance. My first >> PC sim program was Tatum labs ECA, which required a typed netlist. But >> it was pretty cool. > > I have a spreadsheet I wrote for calculating the relationships between > resistance, capacitance, frequency and time constant (put in two and the > others appear, put in three and the error% appears). It also gives dB > loss below or above the 'cutoff' frequency. Some years ago I also made > some lookup tables for combinations of 5% tolerance resistors in series > and parallel. > > Those and a pocket calculator are still the only 'computing' I use for > design work. No surprise there, though I am a bit surprised that you would admit it in public. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney