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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.nntp4.net!nntp.terraraq.uk!news1.firedrake.org!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Asteroid impact 3.2 billion years ago "aided" life Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 11:09:11 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 64 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vfgfr7$37uij$2@dont-email.me> References: <vf89ol$1fr9f$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="65702"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:eWm6YWfdazLOrby1Nkl/rI3R8iA= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 628B7229782; Fri, 25 Oct 2024 12:09:20 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EF54229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Fri, 25 Oct 2024 12:09:18 -0400 (EDT) id 70F9A61116; Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A2195FD1F for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:09:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mod-relay.zaccari.net 4A2195FD1F (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7E995F8A2 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/D7E995F8A2; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 4E728DC01A9; Fri, 25 Oct 2024 18:09:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 18:09:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/uK3sggBDZqO6/IG0QGY03oW49JnMRKcs= In-Reply-To: <vf89ol$1fr9f$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 6098 On 10/22/2024 8:36 AM, RonO wrote: > https://phys.org/news/2024-10-giant-meteorite-impact-billion-years.html > > An asteroid 200 times larger than the one that may have caused the > extinction of the dinosaurs hit the earth 3.26 million years ago. It > supposedly boiled off the surface water of the ocean, heated the > atmosphere and would have shut down photosynthesis. It also mixed up > the ocean water forcing mixing of deep iron rich water with iron poor > surface water. > > The article claims that this aided life. It would have been a boon to > oxygen generating photosynthesis that uses iron in bacterial chlorophyll. > > What should be of interest to everyone is how this explains the results > of the recent LUCA research. > > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02461-1 > > Last July this article was put up on TO. They used genes that may have > duplicated before the last common ancestor of extant life existed to > estimate that LUCA likely existed around 4.2 billion years ago. It > would have meant that there were sophisticated lifeforms with the > universal genetic code existing soon after the earth cooled enough to > have liquid water. One other conclusion was that LUCA likely existed > with many other lineages of life that had been evolving the genetic code > to the extent that it had achieved in LUCA. The evidence indicated that > the LUCA may have evolved from chemotrophes, but may have not been a > chemotrophe (it had genes needed for photosynthesis). Apparently, the > researchers thought that chemotrhophes reevolved in both Archaea and > eubacteria. Around 3.2 billion years ago there seems to have been a > mass extinction of existing life forms and only two lineages derived > from LUCA survived to produce all the extant lifeforms on earth. This > Asteroid hit at around the right time to have caused this mass > extinction that nearly ended life on this planet. > > Figure one of the Nature article indicates that around 3.2 billion years > ago only one lineage of Eubacteria and one lineage of Archaea survived > to subsequently diverge into what we have today. I don't think that the > Asteroid impact "aided" life, but it did reduce the possibilities that > life had, and made the evolution of extant lifeforms possible including > us. Without that asteroid impact life may have evolved very differently > than it did. > > Ron Okimoto > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/10/241021170403.htm ScienceDaily's take on the asteroid impact. The 3.26 billion year old rocks in the study are found in South Africa. Luskin got his PhD in South Africa working on rocks a little less than 3 billion years old. Luskin is a coauthor of the current Teach ID scam propaganda that claims that the ID perps have a scientific theory of ID that can be taught in the public schools, that the Kitzmiller decision was wrong, and that even though ID was found to be no science worth teaching in federal court that it is still legal to teach the junk in the public schools outside of Dover. Luskin is also the ID perp that led the latest bait and switch scam recently on the West Virginia rubes that believed his bogus propaganda, and told them not to teach the junk in their public schools after they passed legislation that would allow teaching the ID claptrap. Ron Okimoto