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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Torvalds Slams Theoretical Security Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 01:08:05 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vfhbt5$3d372$2@dont-email.me> References: <pan$26699$6602b79b$4abe425a$df32a923@gnu.rocks> <_OmcnZpYmdE-PYX6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <wwvldyfmenf.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vfcjir$2gc7o$4@dont-email.me> <wwvv7xh1jee.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vfeh5a$2qk0v$1@dont-email.me> <slrnvhnn9i.2ou1.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vfh570$3brp2$2@dont-email.me> <20241025153958.0000222f@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 02:08:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7ba0119f591c2bdcccf4b1cbfa9307f0"; logging-data="3575010"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/j8qSXPup0z/bq8y36JP8mG6T5g9EwUKk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:G9DQ7O40XDtaPeSqhJnDPhx+mkE= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <20241025153958.0000222f@gmail.com> Bytes: 1991 On 25/10/2024 23:39, John Ames wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 22:13:52 -0000 (UTC) > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > >> You can read anything you like. You can never be sure that the >> digital bits your CPU sees bear any relation to the raw random data >> your sensor was picking up. > > In fact, you can never be truly certain of anything at all! Is all that > we see or seem/but a dream within a dream? > Indeed. Welcome to the problems of metaphysics -- "The great thing about Glasgow is that if there's a nuclear attack it'll look exactly the same afterwards." Billy Connolly