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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: The Joy Of Democracy
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 07:33:18 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2024-10-25, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 10:50:25 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2024-10-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:35:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:53:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2024-10-23 2:56 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you mean “large cities”, those are in fact the backbone of your
>>>>>> economy. The US isn’t an agrarian society any more.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why should the value of someone’s vote depend on where they live?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the people in those "large cities" do not receive food, what will
>>>>> happen to them?
>>>> 
>>>> They won’t be able to make the machines that the farmers use to farm
>>>> their crops. There would be no electricity generation or fuel supply,
>>>> no manufacturing of farmhouses, no laying of roads for the trucks to
>>>> supply feed and fertilizer and seed and take away produce. Nobody to
>>>> pay the farmers. Nobody to educate them on how to grow their crops.
>>>> 
>>>> The whole system collapses.
>>>
>>> You are so fucking ignorant it's pathetic. Do you really think they
>>> manufacture tractors in New York City, Baltimore, or LA? Harvest the
>>> lumber needed to build houses? Drill wells for oil and gas? Mine coal?
>> 
>> I don't think he's ever done any real work in his whole life.
>
> As usual he is talking out of his ass. When I took a break from 
> programming in the '90s I drove OTR and went to all of the lower 48 except 
> Vermont and Maine, as well as western Canada. I know where I picked up 
> manufactured goods or agricultural products and where I took them. 
>
> Trucking is sort of like a chess game. When you get a good paying load 
> going from Point A to Point B you're also looking ahead to how you're 
> going the get a load from Point B. Shippers aren't stupid and realize if 
> the loads going out are scarce they can pay less than the actual cost if 
> the trucking company wants to get the truck moving. For example I've 
> brought a lot of carpet to Denver, either from the mills in GA or imports 
> from the LA ports. About the only thing leaving Denver is dog food from 
> the Ralston Purina plant. (or people food. It sort of worried me that the 
> forklifts came from the same direction). 
>
> Particularly in the big eastern cities you'd bounce (run empty) several 
> hundred miles to get a load. Take carpet to Brooklyn and you find there is 
> absolutely nothing shipped out of Brooklyn. You need to get to rural PA.]

I haven't traveled as much as you, but I've seen a lot of our country, and I 
know that Lawrence is absolutely clueless on this subject.

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien