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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Linix goes politics Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 06:37:36 GMT Message-ID: <vfkn3g$3e6c$1@solani.org> References: <vff5rp$1c1v6$1@solani.org> <d3gnhj1v9pt3aea029c1q1lotbm7pemrv2@4ax.com> <vfi09d$23gs$1@solani.org> <04jqhjdoje7mjhueqi3iusubfg3vs7plql@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 06:37:36 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="112844"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (Linux-5.15.32-v7l+) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IM64ENjBd3MBHprDWdm6fDU6wSg= X-User-ID: eJwNytEBRDEEBMCWCHajHOT0X8K7+Z4wKIaOgMfGvl+eol1RXstFsUsI5b/M2B576nklz+O21IT3gsF2Vah9N4QUew== X-Newsreader-location: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (c) 'LIGHTSPEED' off line news reader for the Linux platform NewsFleX homepage: http://www.panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/ and ftp download ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/news/readers/ Bytes: 5094 Lines: 92 On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Oct 2024 13:24:23 -0700) it happened john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in <04jqhjdoje7mjhueqi3iusubfg3vs7plql@4ax.com>: >On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 05:55:57 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >wrote: > >>On a sunny day (Fri, 25 Oct 2024 09:01:40 -0700) it happened john larkin >><JL@gct.com> wrote in <d3gnhj1v9pt3aea029c1q1lotbm7pemrv2@4ax.com>: >> >>>On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:12:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>Removal of Russian coders spurs debate about Linux kernel’s politics >>>> >>>> >>>> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/10/russian-coders-removed-from-linux-maintainers-list-due-to-sanction-concerns/ >>>> >>>>Torwalds brain going the same way as ByeThen's? >>>>quote: >>>> There followed a number of messages questioning the legitimacy, suddenness, potentially US-forced, and non-reviewed nature >>>> of >>>> the commit, along with broader questions about the separation of open source code from international politics. >>>> Linux creator Linus Torvalds entered the thread with, "Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about." He wrote: "It's entirely >>>> clear why the change was done" and noted that "Russian troll factories" will not revert it and that "the 'various >>>> compliance >>>> requirements' are not just a US thing. >>>> "As to sending me a revert patch - please use whatever mush you call brains. >>>> I'm Finnish. >>>> Did you think I'd be *supporting* Russian aggression? Apparently it's not just lack of real news, it's lack of history >>>> knowledge too," Torvalds wrote before signing off. >>>> Torvalds later wrote that he would not go into the details that kernel maintainers "were told by lawyers," and would not >>>> "start discussing legal issues with random internet people," which he suspected "are paid actors and/or have been riled up >>>> by them." >>>>end quote >>>> >>>>US Linux? >>>> >>>>Betler write your own OS >>>>Use an old Linux version, very old? >>> >>>For embedded stuff, go bare metal. >> >>Yep, that is what I do with Microchip PICs >> >>>>... >>>>Multi-tasker is not that hard... did one, many have. >>>>Get rid of all the bloat. >>>> >>>>Got it! Ask AI to write one free of politics. >>>> >>>>Ooops, AI invaded too.. >>>>OK, back to smoke signals for commienukatione >>> >>>Software seems to degenerate into language wars. >> >>Way too many languages.. the evil started with Cplushplush. > >There's a web site somewhere that lists the known programming >languages and variants. I think there are about 3000. > >Here is your weekend assignment: > >https://builtin.com/software-engineering-perspectives/new-programming-languages Wow, I have read the site, is that enough? Honestly, for some babble I do not even know what they are carrying on about. I guess if you were to get a job at some company that uses one or more of those languages you could get going in a short time. But would I want the job? >>C is cool, asm is cool too. >>The rest? Sometimes I thing as there is less hardware knowledge by programmers >>each of those tries to re-invent the wheel but without in depth knowledge, >>resulting an a bunch of silly 'languages', that will change in every new release. >>That will never be secure... >>And why all that code? US got to the moon and back with less power than a Raspberry PI version 1 > >A Pi Pico has hundreds of times more compute power. Maybe thousands. >For $7.50. I am looking for a new laptop, old one is now more that 10 years, a Samsung core I5, some parts are mechaniclly damaged, been around all over the place, also need longer battery life. Must run Linux of course. Samsung Galaxy range seems a possibility... Web browsing with the Pi4 8 GB is irritating slow at times. Maybe extra cooling would help...