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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!nntp.terraraq.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Evolution of the mind Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 07:55:46 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vfld8h$eo59$1@dont-email.me> References: <fd6d6a46b42260282f3b48ab3f98d643@www.novabbs.com> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="36129"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:1GZ2ONnmPSa/8G87ryLjC7X/c5I= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id D3C7F229782; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 08:55:52 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA266229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 08:55:50 -0400 (EDT) id 5CA8E5DF9A; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 12:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A7455DF99 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 12:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C74105F70F for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 12:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/C74105F70F; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 5F570DC01A9; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 13:55:46 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 13:55:46 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <fd6d6a46b42260282f3b48ab3f98d643@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/Jg2gnT7bJoDFyaXXHWscvI5erMelwJQc= FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3487 On 10/27/2024 5:40 AM, Burkhard wrote: > A discussion with Peter Godfrey-Smith to introduce his latest book, > Living on Earth: Forests, Consciousness, and the Making of the World, - > https://nautil.us/motion-made-minds-1010268/ > > I haven't read that one yet, but I loved the precursor in the trilogy, > Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness > The mollusc brain may be the best functional brain in the animal kingdom. It is small and can function in a cold blooded animal, so it has to be very energy efficient. It may be better than avian brains in terms of being able to do amazing problem solving things with such a small brain. There was a recent video of an octopus recruiting fish as hunting partners, and the octopus would punch fish that were not participating correctly on the team. Ron Okimoto