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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 22:08:50 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <vfpjk2$1976k$1@dont-email.me> References: <veoift$29dtl$2@dont-email.me> <veoq3j$2aqp2$1@dont-email.me> <vf716u$1607j$1@dont-email.me> <vf7ks8$1d1vt$1@dont-email.me> <vf8eu5$1h5mj$2@dont-email.me> <vfdk8g$2lgl1$1@dont-email.me> <vfdrb8$2mcdg$1@dont-email.me> <vffk1i$33iat$1@dont-email.me> <vfgaev$36im7$5@dont-email.me> <vfi743$3kr1e$1@dont-email.me> <vfip3l$3ner2$2@dont-email.me> <1bc1ab08ec47bf818ddff1d4f63b542ceadd6985@i2pn2.org> <vfjokd$3su2f$1@dont-email.me> <vfk3jl$3kr0c$5@i2pn2.org> <vfk4lk$3ukdm$1@dont-email.me> <vfl8o9$3mnmt$5@i2pn2.org> <vfli1h$fj8s$1@dont-email.me> <vflue8$3nvp8$2@i2pn2.org> <vfmd8m$k2m7$1@dont-email.me> <bcd82d9f8a987d3884220c0df7b8f7204cb9de3e@i2pn2.org> <vfmueh$mqn9$1@dont-email.me> <ff039b922cabbb6d44f90aa71a52d8c2f446b6ab@i2pn2.org> <vfo95k$11qs1$1@dont-email.me> <vfp8c0$3tobi$2@i2pn2.org> <vfpcko$1837o$3@dont-email.me> <vfpish$3u885$2@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 04:08:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="393123f3287a9aeded778d1158c0bfd1"; logging-data="1350868"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18oUj77OLfEgpIxdHh7VHZj" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:9KXrsoxJDrWyyBpsanavzeWb97k= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241028-6, 10/28/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vfpish$3u885$2@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3261 On 10/28/2024 9:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/28/24 9:09 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 10/28/2024 6:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> >>> It is IMPOSSIBLE to emulate DDD per the x86 semantics without the >>> code for HHH, so it needs to be part of the input. >>> >> >> *You seemed to be a totally Jackass here* >> You are not that stupid >> You are not that ignorant >> and this is not your ADD >> >> _DDD() >> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >> [00002183] c3 ret >> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >> >> At machine address 0000217a HHH emulates itself emulating >> DDD without knowing that it is emulating itself. >> > > Then how did it convert the call HHH into an emulation of DDD again? > When HHH (unknowingly) emulates itself emulating DDD this emulated HHH is going to freaking emulate DDD. Did you think it was going to play poker? -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer