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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Interview Question (your Sunday ruined part 2) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:00:58 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 68 Message-ID: <vfqbos$1gpcm$1@dont-email.me> References: <i8dRO.58184$hP51.41044@fx08.ams1> <risahjpn2kfue87dqm6t2461a966ncv9in@4ax.com> <vf4r7q$n55i$1@solani.org> <vf5kss$v68q$2@dont-email.me> <vfirug$3nl6p$2@dont-email.me> <9o1qhjp80ddmpqpskaka7hicergps33be6@4ax.com> <vfjo1v$3siti$2@dont-email.me> <vmqqhjd46lviruv25snb1cn6js0gdgmort@4ax.com> <vfl049$7486$6@dont-email.me> <3gtshjh0v2s0ahia7d9lcfnp0nj6a13nga@4ax.com> <vfn9lg$4p0d$1@solani.org> <jaavhjd47r91dcva8mjffo6f7q7ehgk855@4ax.com> <vfodhd$5c0f$1@solani.org> <galvhjds4u1rtuu8515mb1o769qhibga15@4ax.com> <vfpvb9$64c5$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 11:01:01 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="860bc300394497b24f9073293b13d63b"; logging-data="1598870"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX182TFhceP8IVbynAeCAICjK1ia83Dxkqtk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:QetM0amUAKxn/joMT+GeURbvapU= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241029-0, 29/10/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vfpvb9$64c5$1@solani.org> Bytes: 4588 On 29/10/2024 5:28 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:25:51 -0700) it happened john larkin > <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote in <galvhjds4u1rtuu8515mb1o769qhibga15@4ax.com>: > >> On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 16:18:52 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Oct 2024 08:17:36 -0700) it happened john larkin >>> <JL@gct.com> wrote in <jaavhjd47r91dcva8mjffo6f7q7ehgk855@4ax.com>: >>> >>>> On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 06:06:38 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On a sunny day (Sun, 27 Oct 2024 10:37:19 -0700) it happened john larkin >>>>> <JL@gct.com> wrote in <3gtshjh0v2s0ahia7d9lcfnp0nj6a13nga@4ax.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> In our new office/design center we don't have a real conference room, >>>>>> so we go on group hikes around the Bernal Cut or in Glen Canyon. That >>>>>> seems to really work, getting physical outdoors with the crew. I just >>>>>> wish that more trees had whiteboards. >>>>> >>>>> Go to the beach and draw in the sand? >>>> >>>> We'd have to drive to a beach (ocean or Bay or Gate are about equal >>>> distances) and that would be a nuisance with parking and such. And the >>>> graphic resolution of sand is mediocre. >>>> >>>> No whiteboard forces more mental visualization. We can bail on the >>>> hike and go back to the office and whiteboard, max delay about 20 >>>> minutes. >>>> >>>> Architectural and management concepts work in a hike, circuit design >>>> not so well. >>>> >>>> Percolating ideas is an interesting process. There must be books on >>>> the subject. The physical situation seems to matter. >>> >>> Nature is very inventive, plants, animals, >>> maybe spending some time there helps? >>> There are simple drawing programs for on your smartphone or laptop >>> that can be usd to show somebody more complex things wherever you are, >>> even via the internet (My laptop has a Huawei 4G stick, is on 4G) >>> I do need a working mouse however.. >> >> Thinking while hiking avoids the Eyeball Effect, the fact that most >> people change their behavior as a function of how many eyeballs are >> aimed at them. Actors and musicians and politicians have extreme >> eyeball sensitivity, get high from big audiences. Most autistic people >> have little or none. >> >> Eyeball Effect distorts clear thinking. Hiking with people, you seldom >> see their eyeballs. >> >> I've noticed that animals, cats and dogs and birds, are sensitive to >> eyeball effect too. It's probably a component of their threat >> evaluation. > > Every evening I put out some food for the birds here, mostly crows. > Last night I checked and the neighbor's cat was eating it... > It did not even care when I tapped against the window ... was hungry likely. > The crows know me, they greet me .. crows are very smart. But not al that choosy. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney