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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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On 10/29/2024 8:17 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 10/29/24 10:41 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 10/29/2024 5:50 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 10/28/24 11:08 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 10/28/2024 9:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 10/28/24 9:09 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/28/2024 6:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is IMPOSSIBLE to emulate DDD per the x86 semantics without the 
>>>>>>> code for HHH, so it needs to be part of the input.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *You seemed to be a totally Jackass here*
>>>>>> You are not that stupid
>>>>>> You are not that ignorant
>>>>>> and this is not your ADD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>>>> [00002182] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>>> [00002183] c3         ret
>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At machine address 0000217a HHH emulates itself emulating
>>>>>> DDD without knowing that it is emulating itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then how did it convert the call HHH into an emulation of DDD again?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When HHH (unknowingly) emulates itself emulating DDD this
>>>> emulated HHH is going to freaking emulate DDD.
>>>>
>>>> Did you think it was going to play poker?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which is what it would do, get stuck and fail to be a decider. It 
>>> might figure out that it is emulating an emulating decider, at which 
>>> point it knows that the decider might choose to abort its conditional 
>>> emulation to return, so it needs to emulate further.
>>>
>>> Only by recognizing itself, does it have grounds to say that if I 
>>> don't abort, it never will, and thus I am stuck, so I need to abort.
>>>
>>
>> Counter-factual. This algorithm has no ability to its own code.
>> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c // page 801
>>
>> *That people fail to agree with this and also fail to*
>> *correctly point out any error seems to indicate dishonestly*
>> *or lack of technical competence*
>>
>> DDD emulated by HHH according to the semantics of the x86
>> language cannot possibly reach its own "return" instruction
>> whether or not any HHH ever aborts its emulation of DDD.
>>
> 
> No, it knows its own code because it rule for "No conditional branches" 
> excludes that code.
> 

Are you really so stupid that you think this will help
DDD reach its own return instruction?

> And thus it is working with an invalid arguement.


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