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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 08:35:52 +0000 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 38 Message-ID: <vfsr58$22vgc$2@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <vfltbc$7ek$1@gal.iecc.com> <ASCTO.586560$1m96.217020@fx15.iad> <vfpc6g$a0p$1@gal.iecc.com> <B17UO.740251$_o_3.409662@fx17.iad> <vfqvjd$1k2j3$4@dont-email.me> <EV9UO.301900$kxD8.194960@fx11.iad> <loctfjF6l90U3@mid.individual.net> <cedUO.740262$_o_3.283624@fx17.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 09:35:52 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f512c0d648b57475ad3d1332958c4c68"; logging-data="2194956"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+WZYq8rduxJfl9wmK8vyxfF1Djvzcwpgg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:KBCoLS1N7E1nqwIk6gOUQ1YyEvU= In-Reply-To: <cedUO.740262$_o_3.283624@fx17.iad> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2753 On 29/10/2024 22:22, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2024-10-29, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> The cornucopians think there will always be a technological fix. Someday >> they will reach into the hat to pull out the next rabbit and find out >> there ain't no more rabbits. > > "Cornucopians" - love it. That's a keeper. > It's a well known term for a clearly defined set of people who - lacking any STEM knowledge themselves - confidently predict that technology will save them, resources will never run out and the only limit is human imagination. They are similar to the Greens in their adherence to faith based arguments based on no facts whatsoever. They tend to be American, because the USA is probably the richest nation in terms of natural resources per capita. And because it has no history at all, is inclined to disbelieve its lessons Here in Europe we have lived through many a resource limited collapse. > As I once heard on a program on the topic, "Science can't make the > sun shine brighter or the rivers run faster." > Or Confucius : ¨Nature does not forgo the winter because men dislike the cold" -- "Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing...." "What kind of person is not interested in those things?" "Jeremy Corbyn?"