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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: Should they start calling H5N1 genotype B3.13 "dairy influenza"
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:22:32 -0500
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California, Washington and Oregon are still calling the dairy virus 
"avian influenza" but the infection hasn't been spread from birds to 
cattle since it was first detected.  The poultry flocks that have been 
infected by the virus had all been infected by nearby dairies in all 
cases where that determination could be made.  The poultry flocks are 
quickly depopulated, so the back infection to dairies hasn't been noted. 
  Dairies are not depopulated, and continue to infect other farms.

Influenza A in swine and Humans is avian influenza, but we call it swine 
flu or just the flu in humans.

The use of "avian influenza" for the dairy virus is allowing Washington 
and Oregon to ignore the fact that they likely have infected dairies in 
their states, and they refuse to identify those infected herds.  Poultry 
flocks have always been infected by nearby dairies, so when a poultry 
flock goes down with the dairy virus there are infected dairies in the 
area.  It was found in Michigan and Texas (both states started getting 
infected poultry flocks after the diary virus was detected) that around 
7% of the workers on infected dairies also worked on poultry farms. 
More worked at other dairies because most dairies do not maintain full 
time staff.  Contact tracing was never implemented to identify all the 
infected herds.  California implemented contact tracing and have 
identified around half the total known infected herds in just the last 
month.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/more-human-avian-flu-cases-washington-state-california

This article claims that the number of confirmed infected herds in 
California is now up to 186 (388 total herds).  Sample submission 
numbers indicate that over 200 samples have already been sent in for 
verification by the end of last week.  Once a herd has tested positive a 
sample is sent in for verification.  California understands that their 
commercial poultry flocks have been infected by the dairies.

Continuing to call H5N1 genotype B3.13 avian influenza is just allowing 
states like Washington and Oregon to deny having infected dairy herds, 
so they do not have to do anything to identify the infected herds, and 
reduce human infections.  It is just contributing to the CDC current 
plan to allow the virus to evolve into the next pandemic before trying 
to contain it.  The stupid existing plan is to wait until the virus 
starts to be observed spreading in the human population before stepping 
in and trying to contain the infection.  California has high population 
density and two busy international airports.

We no longer call swine flu nor human influenza virus "avian influeza" 
so why keep calling the dairy influenza "avian influenza"?  It now has 
10 to 15% mortality among infected cattle in California.

They are only testing workers with symptoms, but they know that a lot of 
asymptomatic dairy cattle were shedding virus.  They just have never 
implemented testing asymptomatic dairy workers. Nasal swabs could be 
negative, but the milk samples could have high levels of virus.  They 
know for human infections that nasal swabs were negative but eye swabs 
were positive.

CIDRAP has been one of the most up to date news source on the dairy 
infection, but Minnesota never implemented contact tracing when their 
dairy herds were found to be infected, and they have not reported new 
dairy infections for quite some time (the first infections were 
confirmed in early June in Minnesota) even though multiple commercial 
poultry flocks continued to go down with the dairy virus.  They may be 
keeping track of what others are doing, but they are not doing much to 
clear the infection from their state.  Minnesota seems to be pretending 
that they do not have the issue.

Ron Okimoto