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On 10/30/2024 4:54 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 10/30/2024 4:39 AM, D wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> This raises questions about the future job of programmers. Do you
>>> believe that the field will be split into simple code-monkeys where
>>> salaries with the help of AI, will decrease more and more over time, and
>>> the "elite" who actually are the ones who develop new algorithms, tools
>>> and AI that serve to reduce the salaries of the code-monkeys?
>>
>> I have no idea and I am in the business of writing and selling software.
>>   Programming is an odd profession, very few programmers actually have a
>> programming degree.  My degree is in Mechanical Engineering, one of my
>> programmers has a PhD in Chemical Engineering, and my other programmer
>> has a double degree in Chemistry and Physics.
> 
> Pretty much every programmer I've worked with over the last forty five years
> has had a degree in computer science or computer engineering.  There
> have been some without degrees that learned on the job (e.g. started
> in product support and moved to programming, but those are the exception,
> not the rule).

Really? When I started in the early 80s, CS majors were very rare.
The team I worked with at a major Wall Street bank all had college
degrees in other subjects (Biochemistry for me).

That's not to say we were all self taught out of Creative Computing
magazine. I had been working at Columbia, and had free tuition - I
took most of the undergrad, and some grad CS courses before I switched
careers.

When my team at my first programming job acquired our first CS grad,
he Made Sure That We ALL Knew He Had a CS Degree. He lasted less than
a year.

pt