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From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 19:53:48 -0500
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On 10/30/2024 6:55 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 10/30/2024 5:29 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> On 10/30/24 14:12, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 10/30/2024 3:54 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>> On 10/30/2024 4:39 AM, D wrote:
> 
>> You are an end user, do and say whatever you want.  Scott is / was a
>> professional programmer, to make a statement like that is incredibly
>> unprofessional in my opinion.
>>
>> Scott probably knows but maybe does not, is that Bill Gates wrote the
>> first Basic compiler/interpreter for Microsoft in 2,000 bytes of 8080
>> assembly language.  It actually ran on the Altair 8800 with 4,000 bytes
>> of ram.  I would call Gates an elite programmer.
> 
> I would call him a competent assembler programmer, which
> weren't uncommon in those days of limited memory.  Lots of
> PDP-8 code, for example needed to fit in 4096 words of
> memory.  Including fortran compilers, basic interpreters
> and a wide range of other software.
> 
>>
>> Mark Zuckerberg was the only programmer for Facebook for several years.
>> He got Facebook up and going by himself before hiring any employees.  I
>> would call Zuckerberg an elite programmer.
> 
> I would call him a founder and businesman.  Did he write the
> web server that facebook (and myspace at the time) was using?
> No, they leveraged opensource software.  And he hired a bunch
> of programmers once things ramped up.  I met with both facebook
> and myspace engineering teams in the mid 2000's specifically
> to discuss high-end servers.
> 
>>
>> I could name dozens of other elite programmers.  Thompson, Ritchie,
>> Kernighan, Carmack, etc.  So could Scott.
> 
> Sure.  I don't put Bill Gates in that camp.

"My First BillG Review" by Joel Spolsky
    https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2006/06/16/my-first-billg-review/

Disclosure: I turned down a job offer at Microsoft in 1987.  One of my 
many mistakes in life.

Lynn