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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Wifi error log for Bookworm?
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 09:55:10 +0000
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On 30/10/2024 21:35, druck wrote:
> On 30/10/2024 16:18, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>> druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
>>> This is why I wasn't happy about Raspbian moving from dhcpcd to Network
>>> Manager. Quite often my Linux Laptops which use Network Manager decide
>>> they would like to try WiFi networks other than the one I've chosen,
>>> that's easily fixed via the gui, but not what you want on headless 
>>> systems.
>>>
>>
>> Were the unwanted wifi explorations immediate and consistent, 
> 
> Seemingly random.
> 
>>> You could try disabling the NetworkManager service, and reinstalling
>>> dhcpcd so the WiFi is only selected by the contents of the
>>> wpa_supplicant.conf file. It worked fine for everything before Bookworm.
>>>
>>
>> It seems wiser to learn how to live with Bookworm sooner rather than 
>> later.
>> Up to now RasPiOS has been trouble-free to the point that I know very 
>> little
>> about it. Trying to second-guess the developers is likely to end badly,
>> at least when I'm the one doing the guessing 8-)
> 
> The maturity of Raspbian's Bookworm is there yet. I had to jump to it 
> for my new Pi 5 machines, and I've also got it on a Pi 4 for reference, 
> but the older headless machines are staying on Bullseye until some of 
> the problems have been ironed out.
> 
I sympathise. The main problem is not that its different and the 
defaults may well have changed, its that the body of knowledge and 
online documentation has not caught up.

Having finally plumbed the depths of network manager, it's not bad, and 
it does offer command line, Curses based and x-window based interfaces 
to it.

Once you know how to mess with it, its quick work to try out various 
options and see what works.

Its taken about 6 months but my slow progress on bookworm seems to have 
arrived at a stable headless setup on both pi 4B and Pi Zero Ws.

I have one more issue on the 4B but its not interesting to talk about here.

I will stick with bookworm and persevere to make it work. I am 
fortunately in no hurry.

Eventually one has to know how to use systemd and network manager, and 
that is the price to pay for using a vanilla bookworm.


-- 
"And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch".

Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14