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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:43:41 -0500
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On 10/31/2024 6:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 10/31/24 12:12 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 10/31/2024 11:03 AM, Andy Walker wrote:
>>> On 31/10/2024 11:01, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-10-30 11:17:45 +0000, Andy Walker said:
>>>>> On 30/10/2024 03:50, Jeff Barnett wrote:
>>>>>> You may have noticed that the moron responded to your message in
>>>>>> less than 10 minutes. Do you think he read the material before
>>>>>> responding? A good troll would have waited a few hours before
>>>>>> answering.
>>>>>     I doubt whether Peter is either a moron or a troll.
>>>> Does it really matter? If he falsely pretends to be a moron or a liar
>>>> I may politely pretend to believe.
>>>
>>>      It's not exactly polite to describe Peter in any of these ways!
>>> Entirely personally, I see no reason to do so in any case.  He is quite
>>> often impolite in response to being called a "stupid liar" or similar,
>>> but that's understandable.  He is no worse than many a student in terms
>>> of what he comprehends;  his fault lies in [apparently] believing 
>>> that he
>>> has a unique insight. 
>>
>> When what I say is viewed within the perspective of
>> the philosophy of computation I do have new insight.
>>
>> When what I say is viewed within the assumption that
>> the current received view of the theory of computation
>> is inherently infallible then what I say can only be
>> viewed as incorrect.
> 
> So, are you willing to state that you are admitting that nothing you 
> might come up with has any bearing on the original halting problem 
> because you are working in a new framework?
> 

I am admitting one of two things:
(1) Everyone has misconstrued the original halting problem
as not applying to the behavior actually specified by the
actual input finite string.

(2) I am resolving the halting problem in a way that is
comparable to the way that ZFC resolved Russell's Paradox.
Establishing the foundation that the decider must report on
the behavior of its own simulation of its input to compute
the mapping from this input to its behavior.

It really seems that (1) is more apt and everyone simply
made the mistake of thinking otherwise.

>>
>>> I have no reason to believe that he lies [versus
>>> being profoundly mistaken];  YMMV.  His real problem is that he cannot
>>> [or will not] resist responding to any article here, very probably inc
>>> this one.  He is apparently not alone, which is what generates the flood
>>> of articles.  There is a simple way to avoid that.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> 


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