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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: 2N=E Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:42:07 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vg2eqf$36ojq$9@dont-email.me> References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org> <351593f2-200c-4df5-a93f-9362b8b2bf91@att.net> <vf8qk8$1jkh9$1@dont-email.me> <5b701e07-18aa-42ab-964b-0ca84e1776ca@att.net> <fb930b22-7f79-4a10-858d-a1a9faccc9b9@tha.de> <e2e906ae-48c5-453b-a38f-94c1ebc9ba6b@att.net> <vfgiqa$38oob$1@dont-email.me> <d781add9-cd6b-4fff-9601-111c74f4ae32@att.net> <vfgqa8$39o4h$1@dont-email.me> <a45b5e62-4b8c-4428-83ef-8b9bf62d6981@att.net> <vfj3e9$1e96h$1@solani.org> <40b398d1-40c5-45e9-8615-1cf437af0185@att.net> <vfoqi1$14lcd$6@dont-email.me> <3537899e-e951-4138-b56c-fc76340762b8@att.net> <vftj9t$26ql2$1@dont-email.me> <8b31df46-1361-4dd1-aed3-1f42039af960@att.net> <vfu2qi$29m4j$2@dont-email.me> <84c1bb5d-67db-4d21-918a-f86cd1f815c5@att.net> <vfvefj$9264$2@solani.org> <ca84d22c-3684-4744-a145-a941bac4651f@att.net> <vg0iba$2q8fo$1@dont-email.me> <c2087013-5e5c-4e01-b356-29ffa484bfc2@att.net> <vg0p6j$2ra8e$1@dont-email.me> <vg0u81$2s8he$1@dont-email.me> <vg29sb$36ojr$3@dont-email.me> <vg2cb1$379th$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2024 12:42:07 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="295e755bf90583dca21b4a95e4b6bfe4"; logging-data="3367546"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/M5ys7KPu816dQ6/r0TW73GIZqeaEgwI0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bXHXLvFhaHo8MJ3hW9PjSvX4bdU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vg2cb1$379th$1@dont-email.me> On 01.11.2024 11:59, FromTheRafters wrote: > WM used his keyboard to write : >> On 31.10.2024 22:53, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> WM pretended : >> >>>>> Our sets do not change. >>>> >>>> Then: >>>> Multiplication of all infinitely many fractions of the open interval >>>> (0, 1) results in some fractions in (1, 2). >>>> Multiplication of all infinitely many numbers of the open interval >>>> (0, ω) result in some numbers in (ω, ω*2). >>> >>> No, there are no finite numbers in the transfinites. >> >> Numbers like ω + 4 are in the infinite. But if all natural numbers are >> doubled, then numbers in the infinite are produced. > > What makes you think so? Simplest mathematics. Doubling increases the value. If all natnumbers are existing, then the greatest existing natnumber is existing too, then doubling it does not produce a natural number. Actual infinity is not about variable sets! Regards, WM