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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Programming Languages Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:47:40 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vg3lqn$3ebq0$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg3575$3bio0$1@dont-email.me> <1r2cwfd.1bw3xyfxkz1kwN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2024 23:47:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ded1ae3b3bfdd5f322ed2250cfb25d75"; logging-data="3616576"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+p6VJhemqT/D4LVmwy7zU2" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:rnevg6uvyuiYq14RPPFkPSKf4ms= In-Reply-To: <1r2cwfd.1bw3xyfxkz1kwN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2129 On 11/1/2024 11:25 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > My 'best' language is ALGOL. The modern equivalent is PHP which, with a > bit of improvement, could be made almost as good as ALGOL I really enjoyed Algol (68). But, tended to require a bit more keystrokes to get a problem solved. Considerably better than Pascal and PL/1 (the other "teaching languages" in use at the time). C is a win if you can think in terms of hardware; especially if you are directly interfacing to hardware (hard to imagine writing a VMM system in any other HLL). I can't imagine knowing *where* to insert barriers in other HLLs (will the compiler be able to handle all use cases for me?) I use Limbo as a scripting language as it has the familiarity of C without the pointer issue (safety for non-programmers), adds support for concurrency, GC and *lists* (annoying to have to reinvent for other languages... esp those that don't support pointers!)