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On 11/2/2024 5:21 AM, Andy Walker wrote:
> On 02/11/2024 08:43, Mikko wrote:
>>>> A false assertion is a lie even if nobody asserts it.
> [PO:]
>>> Not at all. The base meaning of {lie} requires intentional
>>> deception.
>> That may be its base meaning but the full meaning includes
>> all false statements. The statement itself does not change
>> when someone states it so there is no clear advantage in
>> saying that the statement was not a lie until someone stated
>> it.
> 
>      Disagree.  There is a clear advantage in distinguishing those
> who make [honest] mistakes from those who wilfully mislead.  We all
> make mistakes;  that, of itself, does not make us all liars.  Not only
> is there the matter of intent, there is also a need for context.  Many
> claims [esp, but not only, in science] veer from truth to falsity to
> truth again, depending on the then-current state of knowledge, or even
> the then-current state of public opinion.  It would be daft if we all
> had to qualify /everything/ we said by "I believe ..." to make it true
> even if what I believe turns out to be false.
> 

Thanks for your rationality.

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