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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Programming Languages Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:00:36 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 45 Message-ID: <vg5ib5$1k47$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <vg3575$3bio0$1@dont-email.me> <vg383n$3c25s$1@dont-email.me> <vg3m01$3e15j$2@dont-email.me> <vg4l8t$254k$1@solani.org> <p5ecij1jf5a4in5mnmelkdfrovelr0esko@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 16:00:37 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="53383"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:O62nlJuBAA8ryxHXWueLeUmYSkQ= sha256:nfFqkFvOrNZRkMTkV+VhiRdGNKrqTVznj7EzGsFrMSM= sha1:tT9RTS4obwnmkB7b7+XkqdLfBA4= sha256:ako4SWSIGvENVXwnySKpdhYrGjWLcQbxpu5vHctLPms= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Bytes: 3115 "john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:p5ecij1jf5a4in5mnmelkdfrovelr0esko@4ax.com... > On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 07:44:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> > wrote: > >>On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:50:41 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Nick Hayward >><nhayward8990@protonmail.com> wrote in <vg3m01$3e15j$2@dont-email.me>: >> >>>On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:57:21 +0100, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/1/24 19:04, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>>> You can call me old fashioned, but I still believe there's never been a >>>>> more elegant computer language than the original K&R C. You can keep >>>>> the rest; I'll stick with that. >>>> >>>> Agreed! All the hand-holding of later versions just get in the way. >>>> >>>> Jeroen Belleman >>> >>>What about C++? >> >>It is a crime against humanity!!! > > Most computing languages originate from programmers wanting to play > with programming because solving real-world problems - the things we > pay them to do - isn't interesting. > > In academia, they need toys and things to argue about so they keep > inventing languages. It's like economists who can't say "let the > market work, and econ 101 is all anybody needs." > > I sat in on one cs class where new languages weren't enough fun, so > the prof lectured about compiler compilers, a whole new layer of > abstraction. > Ah lex and yacc. Well if you're going to use any kind of compiler/interpreter, someone has to write it. Does LTSpice originate from designers wanting to play with simulation because putting real parts together isn't interesting? Managers tend to like simulation because you don't have to get your hands dirty. At least not until the design which worked fine in simulation either doesn't work at all or has some unexpected issue in reality.