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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a
new basis --- EQUIVOCATION
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:56:37 -0500
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On 11/2/2024 10:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 11/2/24 8:24 AM, olcott wrote:
>>
>> When the main motive of people like Richard is to derail
>> any chance of mutual agreement I cannot proceed with all
>> of the steps achieving mutual agreement on each step one
>> at a time in their mandatory prerequisite order.
>
> No, my "motive" is to hold cranks to the truth, or at least get them to
> admit that they are off in some other system, that they can define.
>
> You keep on wanting to be in the system (since it provides the proof of
> the things you don't like) but can't hold yourself to actually be in the
> system.
>
>>
>> void DDD()
>> {
>> HHH(DDD);
>> return;
>> }
>>
>> _DDD()
>> [000020a2] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping
>> [000020a3] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping
>> [000020a5] 68a2200000 push 000020a2 ; push DDD
>> [000020aa] e8f3f9ffff call 00001aa2 ; call H0
>> [000020af] 83c404 add esp,+04 ; housekeeping
>> [000020b2] 5d pop ebp ; housekeeping
>> [000020b3] c3 ret ; never gets here
>> Size in bytes:(0018) [000020b3]
>>
>> DDD emulated by HHH according to the semantics of the x86
>> language cannot possibly reach its own "return" instruction
>> whether or not any HHH ever aborts its emulation of DDD.
>
> Equivocation between looking at the behavor of DDD being the actual
> program (which include a particular version of HHH) and the behavior of
> a PARTIAL emulation of DDD by HHH, which ends up not having the property
> you want to show.
>
> Partial doesn't lead to showing never.
>
In other words you continue to perpetually insist on
the ridiculously stupid idea of requiring the complete
emulation of a non-terminating input.
I don't think this is: stupidity, ignorance, ADD.
I don't know what this leaves besides dishonesty with malice.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer