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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Programming Languages Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:10:50 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vg5m7v$3sflg$2@dont-email.me> References: <vg3575$3bio0$1@dont-email.me> <vg383n$3c25s$1@dont-email.me> <vg3m01$3e15j$2@dont-email.me> <vg4l8t$254k$1@solani.org> <p5ecij1jf5a4in5mnmelkdfrovelr0esko@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2024 18:07:12 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="31db2659f7ab72083557eb534058b35f"; logging-data="4079280"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18CbvKanRRHu7CJ41fXXPeu" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:pIxXkAmaMjgV9Z67Zm583lAS+B8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <p5ecij1jf5a4in5mnmelkdfrovelr0esko@4ax.com> Bytes: 2624 On 11/2/24 15:44, john larkin wrote: > On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 07:44:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> > wrote: > >> On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:50:41 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Nick Hayward >> <nhayward8990@protonmail.com> wrote in <vg3m01$3e15j$2@dont-email.me>: >> >>> On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:57:21 +0100, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/1/24 19:04, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>>> You can call me old fashioned, but I still believe there's never been a >>>>> more elegant computer language than the original K&R C. You can keep >>>>> the rest; I'll stick with that. >>>> >>>> Agreed! All the hand-holding of later versions just get in the way. >>>> >>>> Jeroen Belleman >>> >>> What about C++? >> >> It is a crime against humanity!!! > > Most computing languages originate from programmers wanting to play > with programming because solving real-world problems - the things we > pay them to do - isn't interesting. > > In academia, they need toys and things to argue about so they keep > inventing languages. It's like economists who can't say "let the > market work, and econ 101 is all anybody needs." > > I sat in on one cs class where new languages weren't enough fun, so > the prof lectured about compiler compilers, a whole new layer of > abstraction. > Sorry, that should be YACC, not YASP. Jeroen Belleman (who has seen too many software tools starting with 'YA'.)