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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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Subject: Re: The joy of Democracy
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 01:07:58 -0000 (UTC)
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On 3 Nov 2024 00:47:30 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 21:36:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> The abolitionist movement didn’t come from any religious idea; I see it
>> as the first major move towards seeing right and wrong as something
>> based on universal humanist principles, not deriving from any religious
>> doctrine.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Beecher_Stowe
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ward_Beecher
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Beecher
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lloyd_Garrison
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Parker
> 
> In the US never underestimate the religious influence, particularly from
> the various strains of Calvinism.

I’m sure there are so many disagreements between the various sects that 
call themselves “Christian” (or indeed any other religious label), that 
you can find someone who agrees with just about any position.

Remember that the first steps towards abolishing slavery were not taken in 
the US, but in Europe.