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On 11/3/2024 3:19 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-11-02 10:21:09 +0000, Andy Walker said:
> 
>> On 02/11/2024 08:43, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> A false assertion is a lie even if nobody asserts it.
>> [PO:]
>>>> Not at all. The base meaning of {lie} requires intentional
>>>> deception.
>>> That may be its base meaning but the full meaning includes
>>> all false statements. The statement itself does not change
>>> when someone states it so there is no clear advantage in
>>> saying that the statement was not a lie until someone stated
>>> it.
>>
>>     Disagree.  There is a clear advantage in distinguishing those
>> who make [honest] mistakes from those who wilfully mislead.
> 
> That is not a disagreement.
> 

The term "lie" is to only be applied to intentionally
deceitful statements. To apply the term "lie" to statements
not having intentional deceit <is> itself intentional deceit.

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