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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Camiel Vanderhoeven <camiel.vanderhoeven@vmssoftware.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: x86S Specification Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 15:06:12 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: <vg800m$cvhp$1@dont-email.me> References: <ves555$2uh6n$1@dont-email.me> <ves6gu$2umgd$1@dont-email.me> <5acb70a334dba080ecce579c4bf18c3edc448e7c.camel@munted.eu> <veteh7$38vcj$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2024 15:06:14 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e37752278a836ba0972e3e536ecbeced"; logging-data="425529"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18W0ZkvUxYBDFzvlJuPJcygXKcC8hzzxAo=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:AJNpe2IPo2eZtPCos6tlQmcqxrc= In-Reply-To: <veteh7$38vcj$1@dont-email.me> Arne Vajhøj wrote: > x86-64 in long mode only support 2 modes in PTE's, so > VMS x86-64 is a hardware 2 mode OS 4 mode OS - U in ring 3, > S, E and K in ring 0. Not exactly. Ring 3 is used for Exec, Super, and User Ring 0 is used for kernel and for transitions between modes (SWIS) Running Exec and Super in ring 0 would blow away the separation (which, I might add, is there more for stability than for security, before I unintentionally re-start that debate) Camiel