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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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On 11/3/2024 11:53 AM, Mike Terry wrote:
> On 03/11/2024 13:19, olcott wrote:
>> On 11/3/2024 3:19 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-02 10:21:09 +0000, Andy Walker said:
>>>
>>>> On 02/11/2024 08:43, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> A false assertion is a lie even if nobody asserts it.
>>>> [PO:]
>>>>>> Not at all. The base meaning of {lie} requires intentional
>>>>>> deception.
>>>>> That may be its base meaning but the full meaning includes
>>>>> all false statements. The statement itself does not change
>>>>> when someone states it so there is no clear advantage in
>>>>> saying that the statement was not a lie until someone stated
>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>     Disagree.  There is a clear advantage in distinguishing those
>>>> who make [honest] mistakes from those who wilfully mislead.
>>>
>>> That is not a disagreement.
>>>
>>
>> The term "lie" is to only be applied to intentionally
>> deceitful statements. To apply the term "lie" to statements
>> not having intentional deceit <is> itself intentional deceit.
>>
> 
> Not if the person making that claim sincerely believes it. :)  You are 
> being inconsistent here...

Richard has said that he does not mean intentional
deceit when he calls me a liar, yet uses the term
"liar" anyway knowing that others will take this
to mean intentional deceit. So Richard is a liar
for calling me a liar.

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Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer