Deutsch   English   Français   Italiano  
<vgabqt$u2ar$1@dont-email.me>

View for Bookmarking (what is this?)
Look up another Usenet article

Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups: sci.math
Subject: Re: 2N=E
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 06:40:10 -0500
Organization: Peripheral Visions
Lines: 34
Message-ID: <vgabqt$u2ar$1@dont-email.me>
References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org>   <vfj3e9$1e96h$1@solani.org> <40b398d1-40c5-45e9-8615-1cf437af0185@att.net> <vfoqi1$14lcd$6@dont-email.me> <3537899e-e951-4138-b56c-fc76340762b8@att.net> <vftj9t$26ql2$1@dont-email.me> <8b31df46-1361-4dd1-aed3-1f42039af960@att.net> <vfu2qi$29m4j$2@dont-email.me> <84c1bb5d-67db-4d21-918a-f86cd1f815c5@att.net> <vfvefj$9264$2@solani.org> <ca84d22c-3684-4744-a145-a941bac4651f@att.net> <vg0iba$2q8fo$1@dont-email.me> <c2087013-5e5c-4e01-b356-29ffa484bfc2@att.net> <vg0p6j$2ra8e$1@dont-email.me> <vg0u81$2s8he$1@dont-email.me> <vg29sb$36ojr$3@dont-email.me> <vg2cb1$379th$1@dont-email.me> <vg2eqf$36ojq$9@dont-email.me> <vg2i33$38a2j$1@dont-email.me> <vg31uv$3b2rd$1@dont-email.me> <a3f1a8c045d260ea779c538c2f5a360631cb7d64@i2pn2.org> <vg5n8t$3sb7d$4@dont-email.me> <a4609d595975de654c01758fba3906e7cea16285@i2pn2.org> <vg7oe0$9ma8$7@dont-email.me> <vg8u5c$ik8k$1@dont-email.me> <vga19h$s7mk$1@dont-email.me> <vga47g$sm58$1@dont-email.me>
Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:40:14 +0100 (CET)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="25012beb60c213514f8614ecd0876d5d";
	logging-data="985435"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18UPCCPES/ilzFGPlB/GVo4BvpJ9kxpHxo="
Cancel-Lock: sha1:0JLsYztmSFA1ZsB7lei7pr06UwU=
X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb
X-ICQ: 1701145376
Bytes: 3045

Chris M. Thomasson submitted this idea :
> On 11/4/2024 12:40 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> Chris M. Thomasson laid this down on his screen :
>>> On 11/3/2024 3:56 AM, WM wrote:
>>>> On 03.11.2024 09:50, joes wrote:
>>>>> pparently you do think that there is a
>>>>> natural n such that 2^n is infinite.
>>>>
>>>> If all naturals are there, then no further one is available.
>>>
>>> Sigh. There are infinite natural numbers, there is no last largest one.
>> 
>> No, natural numbers are finite. The set of all of the natural numbers is 
>> infinite.
>
> Yeah. I meant they are with end aka no largest natural exists yet every
>
> any_natural + 1 = another_natural
>
> Why does WM seem to think that this might hold:
>
>
> any_natural + 1 = can_equal_a_strange_weirdo_dark_number_thing?
>
>
>
>
> [...]

He's got a huge mental block concerning pairing/bijection models. He 
thinks we have to know what the numbers are in order to claim a 
bijection exists between two equal sets. Further to that, he claims 
Peano, Cantor, and others were wrong to claim to have addressed all 
natural numbers or rational numbers and found a bijection.