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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 13:24:05 +0000 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 42 Message-ID: <vgahtl$ul44$13@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <vfltbc$7ek$1@gal.iecc.com> <ASCTO.586560$1m96.217020@fx15.iad> <vfpc6g$a0p$1@gal.iecc.com> <538762491.752353332.058271.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 14:24:06 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fa7f0a4b45148beacc9d7a0b2a349571"; logging-data="1004676"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+XXAh+kh81JZcN4gzEgXguvcDlHn/y71Q=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:g1Nznnz1arFrwr/MhstpE1qTjEo= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <538762491.752353332.058271.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> Bytes: 2909 On 03/11/2024 19:49, Peter Flass wrote: > John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >> According to Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>: >>> On 2024-10-27, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >>>>> My back-of-the-envelope calculation tells me that if we continue >>>>> to double our population every 40 years, ... >>>> >>>> You might want to get some numbers for your envelope more recent than the 1950s. >>>> >>>> Here's a good place to start: >>>> >>>> https://population.un.org/wpp/Graphs/Probabilistic/POP/TOT/900 >>> >>> Thanks for the link. Let's see how hard the government works >>> (e.g. baby bonuses) to get that extra 0.5 child per household. >> >> I have no idea what you mean by "the government" when talking about >> world population, but national governments including China, Japan, and >> many European countries have tried to get fertility rates back up. >> They have all been complete failures. >> > > I’m just wondering how much of the decline is individual choice and how > much is due to all the chemicals we keep pumping into the environment. > I am not sure its chemicals, Maybe I am imagining it, but the way I feel in - say the Mojave desert, as to how I felt in - say New York, is massive. The sheer quantity of humanity puts me right off. I think people who have access to contraceptives tend to use them these days to limit kids till it 'feels right' -- “The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell