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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of Technology Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 13:42:57 +0000 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vgaj11$ul44$20@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <vfltbc$7ek$1@gal.iecc.com> <ASCTO.586560$1m96.217020@fx15.iad> <vfpc6g$a0p$1@gal.iecc.com> <B17UO.740251$_o_3.409662@fx17.iad> <GV9UO.301902$kxD8.146393@fx11.iad> <loct65F6l90U2@mid.individual.net> <199392d0-9628-8177-2f3b-35b23a721dd4@example.net> <lodc4vF8rrjU1@mid.individual.net> <ddb44c1a-b458-5cce-b4d1-6258677f5621@example.net> <vft5ai$24n5h$1@dont-email.me> <086607f1-2283-f7fb-ddf9-ac4766b06530@example.net> <log009Fm2poU1@mid.individual.net> <1403284140.752354931.877496.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vg8o80$hevu$4@dont-email.me> <loqfmkF9vg4U1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 14:42:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fa7f0a4b45148beacc9d7a0b2a349571"; logging-data="1004676"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/w6bJrye9WtWSj+zGwoL2lEiIidaSbrLU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:tRBccH4FyYZJPqEA2cFQeq8jr+I= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <loqfmkF9vg4U1@mid.individual.net> Bytes: 2621 On 03/11/2024 23:35, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 20:59:45 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> That level of technology is called “chalcolithic”. That is, they mainly >> use fine stone tools, but they have also found a limited use for copper, >> which can be found lying around pure in some places, is easily workable >> but too soft to do much with. And they haven’t yet developed smelting >> technology to extract metals from ores and create harder alloys out of >> them, like bronze. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy_in_pre-Columbian_Mesoamerica > > South and Central America advanced beyond hammering out found copper. > There isn't much evidence in North America. Bronze needs tin, and there might not have been much around. Iron is a *huge* step up. -- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx