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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: OT: Programming Languages
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 01:22:58 +1100
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On 3/11/2024 6:30 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 09:08:36 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 15:41:11 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 02 Nov 2024 07:55:18 -0700) it happened john larkin
>>> <JL@gct.com> wrote in <dnecijt2s9um4l6a4qnq3j0ekto8fl955d@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 07:42:19 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:04:21 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor
>>>>> Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vg3575$3bio0$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can call me old fashioned, but I still believe there's never been a
>>>>>> more elegant computer language than the original K&R C. You can keep the
>>>>>> rest; I'll stick with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree, I use C only and asm when needed.
>>>>> I started with binary interfacing hardware...
>>>>> Nothing of all of that was hard.
>>>>>
>>>>> BASIC was fun too, but very limiting, slow interpreted language.
>>>>
>>>> PowerBasic is a fabulous compiler. We did one contest, an array math
>>>> signal processing thing. I wrote it in PB, another guy in c. Mine ran
>>>> 4 times as fast.  He played with the code and compiler optimiztions
>>>> for a couple of days and got it up to about 60% as fast as my PB
>>>> version.
>>>>
>>>> I used the obvious FOR loop with subscripts to scan the array. He used
>>>> pointers.
>>>>
>>>> c is really a PDP-11 assembler. In the early days of PDP-11
>>>> programming, everybody was fascinated with using pointers to wander up
>>>> and down the world, and with pushing stuff onto the stack. It shows in
>>>> c now.
>>>
>>> I use for example C on my PCs and the Raspberry Pis I have.
>>> C is yery portable, libraries and open source applications everywhere.
>>> gcc is a nice compiler that supports many architectures.
>>> Stuff I wrote for the PC in C comp[iles and runs on the Raspberries...
>>> This Usenet newsreader I use now I wrote in the late nineties when moving to Linux
>>> as there was no Free Agent for Linux...
>>> Still using it, now posting from a Pi4 8 GB.
>>> It uses linked lists, I have a database of Usenet postings going back to these days.
>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/index.html
>>> There are some compatibility issues, but that is because the graphics library I use
>>> had some changes, but can work around it.
>>> More C code:
>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html
>>> There is a simple 8052 assembler written in C on that webpage too.
>>> And a z80 dissasembler .
>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/index.html
>>> etc etc
>>> My website is basic html.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The guy who wrote the PDP-11 assembler said that it was really a
>> language processor. We built several cross-assemblers as macros within
>> the PDP-11 assembler, including the 6800, 6802, 6803, and 68332
>> processors.
> 
> Steve Gibson of grc.com is heavily into PDP-8s and his site has a good
> selection of info on 'em if anyone's interested.
> 
>> Amazingly, Digikey will still sell you a 68332.
> 
> Price?

You could go to the Digikey website and look it up for yourself. Digikey 
Australia doesn't seem to stock it.

Digikey in America lists an NXP part with a similar part number, but 
shows it as "no longer in production".

John Larkin may be able to do better, but he didn't post a URL.

Maybe he was relying on his memory of previous purchases. Not wise at 
his age.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney