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On 2024-11-05 13:23, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> So how does that help me with this backup problem: How to transfer all
>> my WiFi connection settings from my old Android 7, note carefully the
>> Android version, Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 SM-T719 to a Pixel 8a.
>>
>> I tried a number of general data transfer programs to copy stuff between
>> the two phones, but in the end got best results simply by copying
>> everything conventionally via my PC.  However, the WiFi settings are not
>> stored in the data accessible from a PC.
> 
>    Samsung's 'Back up data' backs up Wi-Fi settings to the Samsung Cloud.
> Not sure if you can access that data to restore it to a non-Samsung
> phone.

I've managed to find my Samsung account details, last used many years 
ago, and do a backup of 'Settings', though there was no granularity of 
which settings were included, so no definite indication that the WiFi 
connections have been backed up.  As my new phone is not also a Samsung, 
and they tend to be rather idiosyncratic, probably I had better not try 
to restore the settings to my current phone, if even I can.  I've spent 
some time on the Samsung website, which is utterly useless [*], trying 
to discover how to restore the backup to my PC, but there doesn't seem 
to be anything there about any such possibility.

* SO UTTERLY USELESS that ...

  :-(  I couldn't even enter a phone number to begin a Help-by-SMS 
conversation because the number of characters allowed was too small to 
permit its last digit to be added, except by omitting the leading zero, 
which of course meant that I didn't receive the SMS reply to start the 
conversation;

  :-(  When I tried to start a chatbot, none of the options fitted my 
need, and there was no method of choosing a general catchall;

Once again I ask: "Just WHO programs shit as bad as this?  Where in 
God's name do they look to find such useless idiots?"

>    AFAIR, Samsung's Windows 'Smart Switch' program also backs up Wi-Fi
> settings to your Windows disk (or Network Share?). That makes the Wi-Fi
> settings more accessible than from the Samsung Cloud.

I just reinstalled it  -  having uninstalled it previously because it 
only works phone to phone if the receiving phone is a Samsung, whereas 
mine is a Pixel 8a  -  and now I notice, which I did not before, that 
while it says it has an option to back up to a computer but no such 
option is actually offered in the menu choices, it does have an option 
to back up to micro SD card.  Unfortunately, I don't have one, but it so 
happens I have a Tesco delivery coming tomorrow, so I've just added one 
to the order.
	
>    AFAIR, Google's 'Back up data' also backs up Wi-Fi settings to your
> Google Drive. As both your Samsung tablet and your Google phone have
> Google backup and restore, that's a possible path of transfer.

I tend to avoid using Google services because of their reputation for 
data harvesting, which in the past has included WiFi information as part 
of Streetview, but perhaps if the SD option fails, then I might try that 
next.

>    Samsung has its 'Smart Switch' Android app to transfer stuff from
> Samsung to Samsung and from non-Samsung to Samsung, i.e for
> re-installing a new device with the stuff from an old device. So you may
> want to check if Google has a similar app to transfer stuff from a
> non-Google (i.e. Samsung in your case) device to a Google device.

Yes, as we are agreed, it only works if a Samsung is the destination 
phone, another example of deliberately crippling software.

Thanks for your helpful suggestions.

-- 

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