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From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
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Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2024-11-06 11:13, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > 
> >    Note that I referred to the *Windows* 'Smart Switch' program, not the
> > *Android* app (which I *also* covered later).
> > 
> >    The Windows 'Smart Switch' program (obviously) *does* back up to your
> > computer and creates files on your disk which you can (try to) access by
> > other 'normal' utilities.  IIRC, Smart Switch creates both regular files
> > and ZIP archives. For the ZIP archives you might need something like
> > 7-Zip, because when I used this quite some time ago, the built-in
> > Windows unzipper could not handle the format which Smart Switch used.
> > 
> >    But to be [f|F]rank, Samsung tries to 'hide' the Windows 'Smart
> > Switch' program, because I couldn't find it on their main Smart Switch
> > page (<https://www.samsung.com/us/smart-switch/>). But a quick Google
> > :-) search on "samsung smart switch for windows" shows it's still there:
> > 
> > 'Downloading Smart Switch on my PC'
> > Last Update date : Apr 17. 2024
> > <https://www.samsung.com/au/support/mobile-devices/downloading-smart-switch-on-pc/>
> 
> Thanks for that.  Like you, I couldn't find it on the Samsung site. 
> I've downloaded and installed it from your link, and backed up the WiFi 
> settings to a PC  -  encouragingly, I was given the specificity to 
> choose to back up only those settings.  However, looking at the backed 
> up files, although I can open the zips in 7-zip, the data itself is 
> encrypted, despite there being an option to encrypt which I noted and 
> specifically left unselected.  I suspect that it's encrypted because the 
> original file from the phone was just backed up as is, and that was 
> encrypted on the phone :-(

  Thanks for the feedback. I was about to dig up some old Smart Switch
backups (if any) from my backup disks, but as you've already found the
Wi-Fi settings data is encrypted, there's no point.

>  From which I predict that most probably it will also be encrypted using 
> the micro SD card that is due to arrive early this evening :-(

  Yeah, most likely it's also encrypted. :-(

> >>>     AFAIR, Google's 'Back up data' also backs up Wi-Fi settings to your
> >>> Google Drive. As both your Samsung tablet and your Google phone have
> >>> Google backup and restore, that's a possible path of transfer.
> >>
> >> I tend to avoid using Google services because of their reputation for
> >> data harvesting, which in the past has included WiFi information as part
> >> of Streetview, but perhaps if the SD option fails, then I might try that
> >> next.
> 
> Perhaps this is what I should try next ...

[...]

> I bought my Pixel 8a at the same time as Andy Burns bought his, and at 
> the time we conferred and shared notes in uk.telecom.mobile.  His 
> experience was very different from mine because his old phone was newer 
> than my Samsung, and was running an Android version equal or later than 
> 10, whereas mine is on 7.  When we first switched on our phones, we were 
> both offered a chance to copy everything from an old phone, and this 
> worked for him because of his later Android version, but I was sent to a 
> website explaining that my device was too old, hence my problems since 
> in copying my data.  I tried various copying apps, but they all fucked 
> up in some way or another, so in the end I just copied the data via my 
> PC, which gave much better results than anything else that I'd tried 
> and, AFAIAA so far at least, the WiFi data is the only thing of 
> importance that I haven't been able to copy.

  I've done more or less the same. While my new phone was a Samsung (old
phone was a Huawei), I only transferred very few apps with Samsung's
Smart Switch and did most of the work by re-installing apps, copying
data and app-settings, etc.. I did use Samsung's Smart Switch to
transfer the 'simple' stuff like 'Calls and contacts', 'Accounts', (SMS)
'Messages' and 'Bookmarks', but probably could have done most or all of
that with Google's 'Backup data'. (BTW, at the moment, on my Samsung
phone, I can't find a 'Restore' for Google's 'Backup data'! That's not
very useful, is it!? :-))

[...]