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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:04:44 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vgg0ic$25pcn$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <0e67005f-120e-4b3b-a4d2-ec4bbc1c5662@att.net> <vga5mb$st52$1@dont-email.me> <vga7qi$talf$1@dont-email.me> <03b90d6c-fff1-411d-9dec-1c5cc7058480@tha.de> <vgb1fj$128tl$1@dont-email.me> <vgb2r6$11df6$3@dont-email.me> <vgcs35$1fq8n$1@dont-email.me> <vgfepg$22hhn$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2024 16:04:45 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2f08683d228596561c9eb1a8bc09afc7"; logging-data="2286999"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1988BKTNUc0CYrQ8s9Fjb8x" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:vi99lLctLEHBPck15vEVA6KT0qc= Bytes: 2360 On 2024-11-06 10:01:21 +0000, WM said: > On 06.11.2024 03:48, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 11/05/2024 02:29 AM, Mikko wrote: > >>>> Geometry is only another language for the same thing. >>> >>> Another language is an unnecessary complication that only reeasls >>> an intent to deceive. > > It is a clearer language. No, what can be said about numbers can be stated at least as clearly in the language of arithmetic. >>> No, the meaning is clear. Of course, because some intevals overlap, >>> you should have specified what exacly you mean by "nearer". But as >>> ε shriks the overlappings disappear and the distance between any >>> two intevals approaches the distance between their centers we may >>> define distance between the intervals as the distance between their >>> endpoints even wne ε > 0. > > I leave ε = 1. No shrinking. Every point outside of the intervals is > nearer to an endpoint than to the contents. This discussion started with message that clearly discussed limits when ε approaches 0. The case ε = 1 was only about a specific unimportant question. -- Mikko