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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 11:05:37 GMT Message-ID: <vgi6u2$9nl5$1@solani.org> References: <vg9h7b$277o$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vg9pnu$ekhh$1@solani.org> <vgass6$28u2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vgccvm$6jk3$1@solani.org> <vgdffb$ibt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vgf4jc$7vn5$1@solani.org> <vgfbii$21t2e$1@dont-email.me> <vgfdo9$850k$1@solani.org> <vgfte1$24o7f$1@dont-email.me> <1r2lvs8.o5x763rz8hxcN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vgg20i$25spk$1@dont-email.me> <1r2m054.1q0xoeb13sbyfqN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vghlp8$9cs8$1@solani.org> <1r2n91y.4mv6llmpj328N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 11:05:38 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="319141"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (Linux-5.15.32-v7l+) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7HDeI7q5sBt7sDCqOFXUQupz444= X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBwDAIA0BLK0+gciAU/xJ254oDhsFhvr7ZOhK6TeqTLzLoH6CvqmVHBHF3+8LVijf9UJLz5uR0jf1eNhYp X-Newsreader-location: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (c) 'LIGHTSPEED' off line news reader for the Linux platform NewsFleX homepage: http://www.panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/ and ftp download ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/news/readers/ Bytes: 4134 Lines: 55 On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Nov 2024 08:40:02 +0000) it happened liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote in <1r2n91y.4mv6llmpj328N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>: >Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: > >[...] >> Speakers and room acoustics... >> I have some, everything is different, should be. >> I liked the Quad electrostats, > >You needed a lot of space and good room acoustics to get the best out of >them. > >>just have some chaep bass-reflex boxes now. > >Bass-reflex looks good on paper but sounds horrible. The human ear >hears the 6dB/octave roll off as 'natural' but with an unnatural 'honk' >superimpose on it. Bass transients are coloured by the honk and give >hang-over effects. > >It may not matter for synthetic pop music, but bass-reflex speakers can >give misleading results if they are used for monitoring acoustic music >recordings. Yes, OTOH the sound is a lot better than what came out of the TV speakers :-) The boxes have some piezos for high frequency too: https://images.marktplaats.com/api/v1/listing-mp-p/images/34/34ab31bf-bc98-44d0-a210-b8ea75e074dd?rule=ecg_mp_eps$_83 now > 20 years old.. Was cheap, also have a Mc Crypt power amp to drive it: https://asset.conrad.com/media10/add/160267/c1/-/gl/000302573ML02/manual-302573-mc-crypt-xpa-225.pdf 2 x 100W sine into 8 Ohm Used it for all sort of things, And this one of course: https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/amplifier/index.html nice chip, been on about 12 hours a day since year 2000? So, as you can see, I am no audiophile... That last amp also drives my cryo-cooler with 60 Hz in mechanocal resonance via a reverse connected main transformer for 50 Hz (for a.o. anti-graffity experiments>_ https://panteltje.nl/pub/cryo/ or maybe if you need cooling for an ultra-low-noise amp? or just to make some rocket fuel.. I just found this: https://panteltje.nl/pub/audio_90_degrees_phase_shifter_top_IMG_6903.JPG https://panteltje.nl/pub/audio_90_degrees_phase_shifter_bottom_IMG_6904.JPG https://panteltje.nl/pub/audio_90_degrees_phase_shifter_circuit_diagram_IMG_6958.JPG https://panteltje.nl/pub/audio_90_degrees_phase_shifter_PCB_top_view_IMG_6962.JPG https://panteltje.nl/pub/audio_90_degrees_phase_shifter_PCB_bottom_view_IMG_6960.JPG Thst is a 90 degrees phase shifter over the speech audio range for generating I and Q signals for SSB modulation. design is not mine, used trimpots to test it :-) One of many experiments...