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On 2024-11-07 10:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2024-11-06 13:24, Java Jive wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>      AFAIR, Google's 'Back up data' also backs up Wi-Fi settings to your
>>>>>> Google Drive. As both your Samsung tablet and your Google phone have
>>>>>> Google backup and restore, that's a possible path of transfer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tend to avoid using Google services because of their reputation for
>>>>> data harvesting, which in the past has included WiFi information as part
>>>>> of Streetview, but perhaps if the SD option fails, then I might try that
>>>>> next.
>>>
>>> Perhaps this is what I should try next ...
>>
>> No, this doesn't work either.  On the Samsung, the only option presented
>> by Google's Backup is to back up contacts, I can't see an option to back
>> up settings.
> 
>    Hmmmm!? Strange! On my ancient Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1" (SM-T530)
> with Android 5.0.2, i.e. even older than yours, Settings says it can
> "Back up application data, Wi-Fi passwords and other settings to Google
> servers". (Settings -> 'GENERAL' tab -> 'Backup and reset')

I was going via a different path, which exists on both devices ...

   Settings -> Google -> All services -> Backup and Restore

.... which only covers contacts.

On the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 SM-T719, I don't have your 'General' tab 
under settings.  Searching its settings for 'backup' gives me ...

   1 Cloud and Accounts -> Backup and Restore -> Backup Settings
     (to Samsung cloud)

   2 Cloud and Accounts -> Backup and Restore -> Backup My Data
     (to Google Drive)

   Cloud and Accounts -> Backup and Restore -> Backup Account
     (create spare account, not relevant here)

   Cloud and Accounts -> Backup and Restore -> Automatic restore
     (auto restore backed up settings when an app is reinstalled)

.... also ...

   Developer Options -> Desktop backup password

.... of which obviously only the first two are relevant:

1 Is the Samsung backup tested yesterday, seemingly can't be restored to 
a non-Samsung phone, and anyway seems to have insufficient granularity 
to restore *ONLY* the WiFi settings, so it would not seem wise to 
restore this en masse to the Pixel, even if I could find out how.

2 I think this might be the same one as you reach by the path you gave 
above.  It is a single switch option which was already enabled, and is 
fully described thus:

"Back up your device data and app data automatically to Google Drive 
(including WiFi passwords, the Phone log, app settings, and related files.

App data may include personal information such as contacts, messages, 
and pictures."

If I could find out how to restore only the WiFi settings from that to a 
different phone, I guess I'd be home and dry, but I can't even find out 
how to use it to restore to the *SAME* phone that it was made from. 
Searching Settings for 'restore' gives me only the first and fourth hits 
above, nothing for restoring any or all of a Google Drive backup.

On the Pixel 8a, searching settings for 'restore' gives me ...

   Google Play Services -> Restore contacts
   Google Play Services -> Google Contacts sync

   1 Apps -> Data Restore Tool

   System -> Erase all data (factory reset)

.... of which only the app [1] seems relevant.  Tapping it takes me to 
its App Info, not the app itself, which says that it's running but not 
active, and gives details of its permissions. etc.  There is no icon on 
the home pages for it, and swiping up to get the list of apps gives me 
nothing of that name or similar, so, how do I run it manually?

Thanks for all your and others' attempts to help, it's a lovely sunny 
day here in Sutherland, so going for a walk now, back later.

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