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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:06:39 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <vgja4u$2q92u$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <0e67005f-120e-4b3b-a4d2-ec4bbc1c5662@att.net> <vgab11$st52$3@dont-email.me> <ecffc7c0-05a2-42df-bf4c-8ae3c2f809d6@att.net> <vgb0ep$11df5$4@dont-email.me> <35794ceb-825a-45df-a55b-0a879cfe80ae@att.net> <vgfgpo$22pcv$1@dont-email.me> <40ac3ed2-5648-48c0-ac8f-61bdfd1c1e20@att.net> <vgg57o$25ovs$2@dont-email.me> <71fea361-0069-4a98-89a4-6de2eef62c5e@att.net> <vggh9v$27rg8$3@dont-email.me> <ff2c4d7c-33b4-4aad-a6b2-88799097b86b@att.net> <vghuoc$2j3sg$1@dont-email.me> <fe3a6105-8215-4b42-9bbc-686481611ea7@att.net> <vgidqq$2l5nh$1@dont-email.me> <e60994c4-0bd2-4f89-b9d9-87304e4cfc54@att.net> <vgiv55$2oid6$1@dont-email.me> <caac1a4e-2938-45a1-ab4f-b9029de8d561@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 22:06:38 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3a2cc1e6b8a4bb2737b4ec8d14de9e4e"; logging-data="2958430"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18dzDyugfcQaQolH/PXJnDvorMtzhOitIo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Xw9Acuay8uTjSepN6Q8ONhymOx0= In-Reply-To: <caac1a4e-2938-45a1-ab4f-b9029de8d561@att.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3544 On 07.11.2024 21:32, Jim Burns wrote: > On 11/7/2024 12:59 PM, WM wrote: >> When we cover the real axis by intervals >> --------_1_--------_2_--------_3_--------_4_--------_5_--------_... >> J(n) = [n - √2/10, n + √2/10] >> and shuffle them in a clever way, >> then all rational numbers are midpoints of intervals >> and no irrational number is outside of all intervals. > > No irrational is not in contact with > the union of intervals. On the contrary, every irrational (and every rational) is in contact with infinitely many intervals, because in the length of √2/5 there are infinitely many rationals and therefore infinitely many midpoints of intervals. > The first is true because, > for each irrational x, > each interval of which x is in its interior > holds rationals, and > rationals are points in the union of intervals. > > There is an enumeration of ℚ⁺ If it is true, then the measure of the intervals of 3/10 of the real axis grows to infinitely many times the real axis. > The infinite sum of measures = 2³ᐟ²/9 > d is _not in contact with_ each interval. The intervals are shifted such that every rational number is the midpoint of an interval. Every point p on the real axis is covered by infinitely many intervals, namely by all intervals having midpoint rationals q with d - √2/10 < q < d + √2/10. > > However, > each interval of which d is in its interior > holds rationals, which are points in ⋃(ε.cover) > Thus, d is _in contact with_ ⋃(ε.cover) > but not with any of its intervals. The intervals have length √2/5. There is no ε. > >> Do you believe this??? > > Don't you believe this??? No, it violates mathematics and logic when by reordering the measure of a set of disjunct intervals grows. Regards, WM