Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: Thumbnails, and what creates them.
Date: 8 Nov 2024 10:26:56 GMT
Organization: NOYB
Lines: 61
Message-ID: <vgksgl.b5g.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
References: <1ktfijp2bp4fisefbf95ptanhve79ab2od@4ax.com>   <vgamqi$ujq$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vgaqga$10q2u$1@dont-email.me> <vgd9p0.soc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <vge35a$1nd5f$1@dont-email.me> <vgfmhb.s74.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <vgfqln$24p9a$1@dont-email.me> <vgh0m1$2b9h9$1@dont-email.me> <vgi714.dkk.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <vgii6l$2mg0s$1@dont-email.me> <vgj382$2palr$1@dont-email.me> <vgj7ov.fo4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <vgj8go$2q7g0$1@dont-email.me>
X-Trace: individual.net tLZuzT2UaLgs8yA+ArlPPQKGwwQpIN9GZXMwycckICDm/+oJHD
X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail
Cancel-Lock: sha1:s90jZRk9weELl7j8FwOA8nzEQFw= sha256:ikLj5sbd40BrF5n3Qn1O4Y8wb+N7V+elfF7cfZrLj9k=
User-Agent: tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (CYGWIN_NT-10.0-WOW/2.8.0(0.309/5/3) (i686)) Hamster/2.0.2.2
Bytes: 3694

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2024-11-07 19:26, Frank Slootweg wrote:
[...]
> >    Let me check my phone:
> > 
> >    Settings -> Accounts and backup ->
> > 
> > "Samsung Cloud
> >    Back up data               (offers choices for what (not) to back up)
> >    Restore data               (offers choices for what (not) to restore)
> >                       ('Settings' choice includes Wi-Fi settings!)
> 
> But no granularity, so you can't restore just one item or set of items 
> from the Settings, and you can't restore to a non-Samsung phone, and 
> perhaps even any phone other than the one that made the backup, though 
> I'm unsure of that last point.

  Indeed, only useful for restoring to the same phone or a replacement
(Samsung) phone.

> >   Google Drive
> >    Back up data"              
> >                       (has no restore section!)
> 
> Yes, ridiculous!  Google seems to be keener on having your data to trawl 
> than actually allowing you, the owner of it, to use it meaningfully! 
> Presumably what is supposed to happen is that, if your phone gets wiped, 
> it will offer to restore from the last backup, but I'm not about to test 
> that by wiping my phone!  Today's tests have reminded me why I always 
> had Google Drive disabled from the start.

  Yes, the Google backup can probably restored to the same device and,
as Andy also indicated, the Google backup can be restored to a new
phone. That's described by following the links on the Google One
(one.google.com) site:

  -> Backup -> Back up your device -> Lern more ->

'Back up your device'
<https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/9149304>
(select 'Android' tab if not preselected)
"...
 Get your data onto a new phone

 Your photos and videos are already available in Google Photos. You can
 restore your backed up data when you set up your new device for the
 first time or after you set up your device.

 * At setup, to restore your data, follow the on-screen steps.
 ..."

  The detailed instructions are mostly for Google Pixel phones, but I
think other brands have similar capability.

  At the time, 4 years ago, my Samsung phone only presented the
(Samsung) Smart Switch procedure, but perhaps the Google restore method
was available somewhere else, like in Settings.

  Bottom line: It's still strange that also this ('Back up your device')
document doesn't say anything about restoring to the *same* ('old')
phone.