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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar? Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 19:32:29 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 80 Message-ID: <vgme3d$3egga$1@dont-email.me> References: <vfli1h$fj8s$1@dont-email.me> <vgdjdq$1jr80$1@dont-email.me> <b24e957b9f2af15c0ba7f18a3f7bfe2c6ff6419d@i2pn2.org> <vgegce$1phg2$1@dont-email.me> <e36afcb3758e0fb26d58019c08a24c6df0b562a7@i2pn2.org> <vgenp1$1uh1b$2@dont-email.me> <acecb0ba68d86b00c95fae1ecf690ec514aee26b@i2pn2.org> <vgfq86$24mon$1@dont-email.me> <e7a092c593ad1431a1bf6589d0102312545612ef@i2pn2.org> <vghb16$2ge1v$1@dont-email.me> <e51f21daadd358ef13801c918106c2fdc65a9f6b@i2pn2.org> <vghe3p$2gr3p$1@dont-email.me> <4cb98b3918d6745f53bb19582b59e786d4af5022@i2pn2.org> <vghgar$2h30o$1@dont-email.me> <e40629600e317dba47dd3d066d83899fa7b8a7ab@i2pn2.org> <vgiq1d$2nkqv$1@dont-email.me> <c7372fcf786ecb5e394cf44079e5ff126899e252@i2pn2.org> <vgk26b$31qrg$2@dont-email.me> <17a781f4479f0c8fb2c02d40a55e5cfa7a0f4847@i2pn2.org> <vgl967$37h38$7@dont-email.me> <78a3858469721b9c70c6672df4bf2c03e0492d70@i2pn2.org> <vgmdge$3ecms$1@dont-email.me> <f157303ea6a750b5c42878bb6464ddca0821526d@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 02:32:30 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="529658128fc1f19cc0ff32f79f31d785"; logging-data="3621386"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ptLPwvg39dQ+3TyaSruTy" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mwgxvlJsIHK38L4qjypB8UshlyM= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <f157303ea6a750b5c42878bb6464ddca0821526d@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241108-10, 11/8/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 4791 On 11/8/2024 7:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 11/8/24 8:22 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 11/8/2024 11:01 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 11/8/24 10:02 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 11/8/2024 6:25 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 11/7/24 10:56 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 11/7/2024 9:10 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/7/24 11:31 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DDD emulated by HHH has the property that DDD never reaches >>>>>>>> its "return" instruction final halt state. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But DDD emulated by HHH isn't an objective property of DDD. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair. >>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair. >>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair. >>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair. >>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair. >>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair. >>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair. >>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No it isn't >>>>> >>>> >>>> Liar. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> No, you are, becuase you don't know know what the words mean. >>> >>> The semantic property is the results of the COMPLETE emulation of the >>> input given to HHH, >> >> That you keep going back to the moronic idea of completely >> emulating a non-terminating input makes you look quite stupid. > > Why do you say that? > > It is the DEFINITION of a semantic property. > *You yourself have already disagreed with that* On 11/3/2024 12:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 11/3/24 9:39 AM, olcott wrote: >> >> The finite string input to HHH specifies that HHH >> MUST EMULATE ITSELF emulating DDD. > > Right, and it must CORRECTLY determine what an unbounded > emulation of that input would do, even if its own programming > only lets it emulate a part of that. > > You are just proving your stupidity by judging things by your un- > informed and incorrect opinion rather than the definitions. > > Sorry, you are just proving how utterly stupid you are and that you are > nothing but a pathological liar. > >> >>> not its partial emulation, and the complete emulation is of the DDD >>> using THAT HHH, the one that aborts and returns the answer if that is >>> the one you are claiming to be giving the right answer. >>> >>> Sorry, you are just proving your stupidity and ignorance. >> >> > -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer