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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Don't let Peanut Die For Nothing Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 72 Message-ID: <vgmsgd$3k7nr$1@dont-email.me> References: <u39kij1hpbhkqnp89alrfrhr4547qvucbn@4ax.com> <vgdc10$1ij9c$1@dont-email.me> <vgdjas$1k28e$1@dont-email.me> <vgg0qe$25l3s$1@dont-email.me> <evfnijl4hdba3vec1rgud1frjftjur337a@4ax.com> <672be990$0$2873015$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <brtnij1l7mcpg3al0mp8747jprhna3t6hr@4ax.com> <672c0b5d$0$981070$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <r93oijtmk5g27th9i5ifpl74ssek9jet24@4ax.com> <10ksijd032ui6keifavmart02f1334mp1t@4ax.com> <672e6dc4$0$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <ohbtij52a06gp9690skvb2le8e7rcfcmba@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 06:38:22 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="78505003f26acfb61046862908a2f911"; logging-data="3809019"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18grTBKOKAiTYUa3BmM5E9Cgq+VA4Bztyo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:LD5dwZlGSA51X5yfATOyAGcoTrw= Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <ohbtij52a06gp9690skvb2le8e7rcfcmba@4ax.com> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241109-0, 9/11/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 4949 On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote: > On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >>>>>> I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance. >>>>> >>>>> Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no >>>>> way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy. >>>> >>>> We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably >>>> threatened to put his entire family in prison. >>> >>> It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in. >>> Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV >>> debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd >>> been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that. The MSM covered >>> for him very well. Can you imagine them doing that for Trump? This is >>> why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy media >>> nowadays and get their news from other sources. Zerohedge has run some >>> amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM - >>> but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly >>> white arse more than once, in fact. >> >> >> Definitely not, we'll get to watch every gory detail of the succession >> crisis (and it's already happening.) The vultures are already circling. >> >> I've got my popcorn stocked up.. > > I think you may be in luck. They'll find a way to thwart Trump and the > will of the people yet. Trump doesn't need much thwarting. His first term made it blindingly obvious that he lacks the political skills to make things happen on large scale. During the Covid-19 epidemic he made it obvious how his intellectual defects made it difficult for him to do anything much, and quite a few more Americans died of Covid-19 than woukd have done if he'd been more competent. > These bastards are utterly ruthless and will > stop at literally nothing to get their way. With Trump, they don't have to. He'll hang himself out to dry. > But they're no friends of yours, either. Whatever utopia you may be dreaming > of if Trump's out of the picture, you won't find it delivered by THEM. Nobody's dreaming of any utopia - the word means "no place". "It literally translates as "no place", coming from the Greek: οὐ ("not") and τόπος ("place"), and meant any non-existent society, when 'described in considerable detail'. America would probably be run better if Trump was out of the picture, but a century of ant-union and - incidentally, but necessarily, anti-socialist - propaganda means that it unlikely to be as well run as most of Europe with universal health care, good education for all and less economic inequality. The biggest improvement would probably come from making it more difficult for billionaires to spend loads of money on helping politicians they like. Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney