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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Don't let Peanut Die For Nothing Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:06:06 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <vgmu4s$3k7nr$4@dont-email.me> References: <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com> <lp150dF9tmlU1@mid.individual.net> <vgftfp$256ql$1@dont-email.me> <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com> <672cd48a$1$2385539$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <MPG.4196a4a1a1de80ab989ffb@news.eternal-september.org> <672d39aa$0$15$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <seksij9l4906gj93p3td8s58urc5v5mamn@4ax.com> <vgltgm$3b5qn$1@dont-email.me> <prbtij9badco5psivek7setb05lfut6j4n@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 07:06:20 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="78505003f26acfb61046862908a2f911"; logging-data="3809019"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19heNeyg93+RVaRUyk8xu5u5C7hevEHoWY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:paZ5nNXX49hWDXjgKxi6gxLQE7E= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241109-0, 9/11/2024), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <prbtij9badco5psivek7setb05lfut6j4n@4ax.com> Bytes: 3738 On 9/11/2024 11:41 am, Cursitor Doom wrote: > On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:49:26 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com> > wrote: > >> On 11/8/2024 12:03 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>> You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to >>> offer. >> >> Early in the campaign (long before there was any discussion of Biden not >> being the nominee), I would ask Biden supporters if, hypothetically, >> Biden didn't run, was there anybody the Dems could nominate that they >> wouldn't vote for? With one exception, every single Biden supporter >> said no, they'd vote for whoever the democratic nominee happened to be. >> The single exception was one smartass who said that if the Dems >> nominated Trump, he wouldn't vote for him. That guy gets points for >> snark, at least. >> >> When it developed that Biden was in fact *not* running, I asked the same >> question about Harris and got the same answer. >> >> I really don't think it mattered at all who the Democratic nominee was; >> the vote would have turned out pretty much the same. >> >> >> Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump. He >> successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else. > > You're talking about Democrats, though. I'm talking about the kind of > candidate who could have won over the floating/undecided voters in the > swing states. Most of whom weren't well educated, and were susceptible to Trump's lies. A Democrat candidate who could have out-lied him is conceivable, but no name springs to mind. Trump has been lying on a industrial scale for most of his career and has a string of bankruptcies to show for it. The take-away message is that America needs to clean up it's secondary education system, but it is unique in that it's primary and secondary education system is run and paid for by tiny school districts. The US constitution was written before universal education was economically feasible - it took Turnip Townsend's agricultural revolution to make it possible - and education isn't a responsibility of the nation or the individual states. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney