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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: SF writers in the work force JD Vance. Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 20:24:06 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vgn2mn$3l1n3$3@dont-email.me> References: <8ehfhj9jphf08ssafje6l45ugf8dd4gjub@4ax.com> <vfo8s8$11las$1@dont-email.me> <vfp652$16va4$5@dont-email.me> <tV6UO.740250$_o_3.85292@fx17.iad> <vfrhvm$prn$1@panix2.panix.com> <vfrlmi$1nj2s$2@dont-email.me> <vfrpqr$1ojbh$2@dont-email.me> <vftrar$28glo$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: noone@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 08:24:08 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="95cef91202d5b48df3ca0d6d319b7dde"; logging-data="3835619"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/2mL8ncWlg3NUV9dYDVkSK" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:9uafMZlxrt+FjcfRlDnbFbjJ+iw= Content-Language: en-AU In-Reply-To: <vftrar$28glo$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3617 On 31/10/24 06:44, William Hyde wrote: snip > Vance was born to money, but the money vanished due to divorce and > prohibition. So he dropped out of school and took all kinds of tough > jobs from his mid-teens until he began to write. > > A common theme in his books is that of a protagonist who starts life > comfortably, experiences disaster, and climbs his way back. Vance > lived it. I think that JD, now VP, Vance has written only one book, Hill Billy Elegy, which tells of his own life before his association with billionaire Trump supporter Peter Thiel. It is an interesting read and I recommend it: 3 stars. His mother was an alcoholic and opioid dependent prostitute when not married. He had too many stepfathers to count, some of which married his mother but never for long. He was saved by his grandmother, who had shifted from some hill billy state, (I don't remember which), to escape poverty to work in a steel factory in Ohio where his grandparents became financially comfortable but not rich. It was his once hill billy grandmother who financed his education. After graduating from high school, he had a cushy job as an unarmed public relations liar for the US army in Iraq before completing Arts and Law degrees. He had no male role models growing up and seems to have based his behaviour imitating strong personalities beginning with his grandmother, continuing with a best friend from high school, the army. his law professor, Peter Thiel, (who spent $15 million on Vance's senate election campaign), and now Donald Trump. There are some strange anomalies in his book. For example, I don't recall him mentioning any non-white people though he is now married to an Indian woman. In the book, he blamed poverty on laziness and cultural backwardness and not on economic inequality due to the shrinking steel industry in his hometown. Now as a Trump echo chamber, he blames poverty because the salt of the earth have been ignored by the (Democrat?) political elite. He is also now associated with people and organisations funded by the Jewish Sackler brothers who are largely responsible for opioid availability through the Purdue Company. A better book is Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver which is about similar people, a USA version of David Copperfield.