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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:54:46 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <vgn4gm$3lcor$1@dont-email.me> References: <vglt5t$30a3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 08:55:03 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="78505003f26acfb61046862908a2f911"; logging-data="3846939"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19UlGW42YsvZnEB7/9cgNo58TQ+Edj29ig=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GH4CIWe9hu7A9ZEbaHa+iLlfOT0= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vglt5t$30a3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241109-0, 9/11/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 2356 On 9/11/2024 7:43 am, Edward Rawde wrote: > This is the simplest circuit I can come up with. > Harmonics are more than 80dB down in simulation. > FFT the last 30 seconds. > There is only one harmonic stopping me claiming 90dB but the exact FFT result can depend > on exactly how much output is selected for the FFT. You may see different results. > > If a prototype is ever built, attention to the type and quality of the capacitors used will be needed. > Electrolytics are not intended. Put C1 and C2 near U1 supply pins. If electrolytics are not intended, why are most of the capacitors rated at 10V? When I cut and pasted the file the capacitors were mostly labelled as 10?, 1? and - in the case of the wein bridge capacitors 0.015? The 15nF capacitors are rated at 16V - the polypropylene parts you can actually buy that are offered with a +/-1% tolerance are 63V and 250V parts I presume you intended u or the Greek mu symbol, and after I'd done that substitution the simulation did work, if not well. The feedback loop doesn't settle well, and I suspect that I know why. R4 should probably be in series with C3, not in parallel. More later. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney -- Bill Sloman, Sydney