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badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:05:28 -0000 (UTC) :

>>I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>>and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>>vehicles.
> 
> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
> maybe you can explain it to me.  Why don't people just say BMW?  It's
> not like that's a long acronym.
> 
> I may have mentioned this once.  My mother who is German made sure I
> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly.  She hated when people pronounced
> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".

I'm of German descent and I've always known what a bimmer & beemer are,
badgolferman - but - I've owned both bimmers and beemers also.

If I own something, I then learn what I need to learn to know everything I
want to know about it. In the case of the beemer, my 525i happens to have a
CCV valve, which happens to clog up, which happens to make it fail
California emissions - which means - I have to learn how to replace it.

You will *never forget* a CCV replacement badgolferman. Never. 
It's not possible to forget because you have to rip the engine bay apart.

When you replace the cooling system, you will *never forget* that the Behr
expansion tank is just about as complicated as they could have made it.

When you replace the thermostat & waterpump, you will *never forget* the
special 32mm tools you need just to spin off the radiator fan which has to
be removed before you can get the serpentine belt off. 

To get the serpentine belt off, you will *never forget* how strongly and
strangely designed the belt tensioners are that you have to also deal with.

When you fail emissions again, you have to deal with the DISA valve, which
is an expensive plastic piece of garbage that is on the intake manifold.

When you adjust your (admittedly rather comfortable leather) driver seat,
you will *never forget* the adjusting cable slips out of its clasp because
eventually they all get "seat twist" which you then have to deal with.

Speaking of the interior, the cupholders are a joke but you have to
periodically replace them because they break on every single 525i owner.

The trunk loom is a disaster just waiting to happen, depending on which
wires chafe and then short out against the others, causing all sorts of
strange electrical problems which are almost impossible to diagnose.

Speaking of impossible to diagnose, when the ABS control module goes out,
and it will because it fails on everyone - when you take it apart, you'll
be appalled at the "angel hairs" inside which simply break off at the weld.

All this - and more - is what will be inescapable to any bimmer owner who
owned the particular model that I owned since these problems are universal.

Those are just facts - but the *assessment* of those facts is my simple
summary that BMW does not know how to make systems work together.

Since *none* of those issues was in the drive train or suspension, I will
say that BMW makes those two systems work beautifully together.

Do you see what I'm trying to impart - which has nothing per se to do with
BMW but to do with *understanding* things that a normal person should do.

I (think I) understand how BMW thinks about the design of vehicles.
a. The drive train & suspension are what BMW cares about
b. Not anything else

Back to your question, it's a running joke among *all* BMW aficionados that
the noobs always come into the web site (such as bimmerfest.com) always
trying to tell us how much they know about their vehicle.

The instant they use the word beemer for a car, for example, we know
they're completely clueless morons who are posers like Alan Baker is.

If someone doesn't even know a beemer from a bimmer, they know nothing
about BMW vehicles as only the posers confuse the two critically important
terms (for most of us who own both - and I know you own a motorcycle too).

If a person tells you that you "drive" that big heavy Honda you own, you
would also instantly ascertain they know absolutely nothing about bikes.

Am I right?

The point here is the Apple trolls know nothing about Apple products.
In fact, the Apple trolls know nothing about anything.
They're all Dunning Kruger left of the first quartile on Mount Stupid.
You know this. I know this. Everyone knows this. 

But those trolls themselves are who think they're geniuses for standing in
long lines outside the Apple store waiting along with other likewise Apple
geniuses to pay through the nose for a substandard product line from Apple.

All the Apple trolls (Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, JF Mezei et. al) merely parrot Apple marketing.

They don't actually know *anything* about the Apple products they love.
Just like none of them know anything about BMWs (the bikes or the cars).