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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---Breakthrough ? Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:43:39 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vgos3b$12qt$2@dont-email.me> References: <vfli1h$fj8s$1@dont-email.me> <vghb16$2ge1v$1@dont-email.me> <e51f21daadd358ef13801c918106c2fdc65a9f6b@i2pn2.org> <vghe3p$2gr3p$1@dont-email.me> <4cb98b3918d6745f53bb19582b59e786d4af5022@i2pn2.org> <vghgar$2h30o$1@dont-email.me> <e40629600e317dba47dd3d066d83899fa7b8a7ab@i2pn2.org> <vgiq1d$2nkqv$1@dont-email.me> <c7372fcf786ecb5e394cf44079e5ff126899e252@i2pn2.org> <vgk26b$31qrg$2@dont-email.me> <17a781f4479f0c8fb2c02d40a55e5cfa7a0f4847@i2pn2.org> <vgl967$37h38$7@dont-email.me> <78a3858469721b9c70c6672df4bf2c03e0492d70@i2pn2.org> <vgmdge$3ecms$1@dont-email.me> <f157303ea6a750b5c42878bb6464ddca0821526d@i2pn2.org> <vgme3d$3egga$1@dont-email.me> <0378d69cb2932277db2ddeaa53635eb4ceb29e3d@i2pn2.org> <vgnthh$3qq7s$5@dont-email.me> <812056ef4c835c43225a6331d8f2de9dbb7325d5@i2pn2.org> <vgo57b$3sfle$3@dont-email.me> <8d45eda8bedb636afb0bd68da3c044d40aca7bdd@i2pn2.org> <vgof3i$3ucjr$2@dont-email.me> <fd79d5cada75cbd6494d8cdd939e8e3c530072b8@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 00:43:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5e3d204d1939e67d6d9b2cbe8090f3d7"; logging-data="35677"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5D33YZ00LGrTg9XeV2WEU" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:NzAYqdk1zQrgqe+p/VUe++nLXY8= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241109-4, 11/9/2024), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <fd79d5cada75cbd6494d8cdd939e8e3c530072b8@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 11/9/2024 2:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 11/9/24 3:01 PM, olcott wrote: On 11/3/2024 12:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 11/3/24 9:39 AM, olcott wrote: >> >> The finite string input to HHH specifies that HHH >> MUST EMULATE ITSELF emulating DDD. > > Right, and it must CORRECTLY determine what an unbounded > emulation of that input would do, even if its own programming > only lets it emulate a part of that. > >>> >>> I am saying that HHH does need to do the infinite emulation itself, but >> >> Right and it doesn't. > > But doesn't give the required answer, which is based on something doing it. > The unaborted emulation of DDD by HHH DOES NOT HALT. *Maybe I have to dumb it down some more* HHH predicts what would happen if no HHH ever aborted its emulation of DDD. This specific DDD never halts even if it stops running due to out-of-memory error. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer